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Here I am hello [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:49, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
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== 247exchange ==
Could you please add the exchange service 247exchange.com to this list https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version) ?
247exchange is a fixed-rate exchange. Accepting credit & debit cards, bank wire transfer, SEPA, express cash transfers (through MoneyPolo system and its partners), etc.
Also, coin.mx seems dead, so, I guess, it's better to remove it from the list. Thanks.


== IRC, recent changes, etc ==
== Bitcoin Fog ==
Could you remove bitcoin fog advertisment from bitcoin wiki, because it scammed a lot of people? {{unsigned|Pampa|20:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)‎}}
:See [[Talk:Bitcoin Fog]] --[[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:36, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
== Can you at least consult with me ==


You're not on IRC much anymore - if it's not too inconvenient, it's nice to have everyone online for chatting ;)
...before editing "every" thing I write. Isn't that the point of this being a community wiki and not a centralized wiki?
In the meantime, some topics I'd like to bring up:
* Please don't give BitcoinTalk a privileged position on the wiki - it is 99.99% trolls, so probably the worst place to be referring to for reviews.
* I disagree with automatically removing things as "cons" without evidence of it (ie, not merely lack of evidence in their favour) - this should probably be discussed on IRC with everyone sometime.
* The sentence "Please use a more established mixer until this one proves to be trustworthy." may prove to be problematic since mixers are most likely illegal - maybe we should discuss just prohibiting them altogether...
* Transactions do not have a [[from address]] - please try not to bring blockchain.info's misinformation to the wiki :)
--[[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] ([[User talk:Luke-jr|talk]]) 07:13, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
:I thought I replied to this. I must not have saved it. Anyways I don't have much time right now, but I wanted to say real quick that I am certain of pages like [[Brave Bunny 6x]] et al are scams. These pages all have the same format and have been repeatedly created at the same time by the same accounts. I think [[Bitcoin Blender]] is a real service, but on BitcoinTalk or not, I can't find any testimonials. I will try to be more active on IRC, I look forward to talking to you! [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 14:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC)


== permission to edit==
Why did you rename the PS Coin page (see how I'm consulting first before just undo-ing)?
Hi Taras, it says that I do not have rights to edit:https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Talk:Buying_Bitcoins_%28the_newbie_version%29
I would like to add my company, BTC Guys LLC link: http://www.btguys.us


Thanks for your help {{unsigned|Mansoor5|15:55, 29 August 2014 (UTC)}}
Additionally, I changed the "planned" template you edited back to "soon" which I originally had made - there is a very literal distinction between those words. Planned would imply uncertainty. We've already tackled the sufficient regulatory hurdles necessary, minus one additional step which we're in the process of completing now.
:Sorry I didn't get back to you until now; but it looks like you have figured it out. Let me know if you still need anything. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 17:27, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
::Dear Taras, my website is still not listed on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_%28the_newbie_version%29
::I will appreciate any help to list my website there.
::Thank you, {{unsigned|Mansoor5|00:00, 3 September 2014 (UTC)}}
:::I'm sorry; I thought you were talking about [[Buying bitcoins]], not the newbie version. I took care of it. :)
:::<small>By the way -- you can sign your comments by typing <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> in the editor.</small> [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 20:58, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
::::Thank you so such! ~{{unsigned|Mansoor5|00:38, 4 September 2014 (UTC)}}


== admin rights ==
{{unsigned|Bliljerk101|23:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)}}


you have admin rights on the english wiki. that means you can move/delete pages when you deem it appropriate. {{unsigned|Nanotube|02:41, 14 August 2014‎}}
:Is [[PS Coin]] really called "PS Coin - incentivized exchange"? They write that down as their name all the time? If it is, go ahead and put it back.
:Acknowledged :) [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 02:46, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


==Proposed article for deletion==
:: I just feel the distinction would help in this case, since it's radically different than other exchanges (no other exchanges have an incentivized algorithm like PS Coin - it really should be in a category of its own) [[User:Bliljerk101|Bliljerk101]] ([[User talk:Bliljerk101|talk]]) 18:29, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I would like to propose deleting the article [[Tonal Bitcoin]]. I have added a justification here
:Also, "Planned" does not imply uncertainty. It is only used when implementation is imminent. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 14:37, 9 February 2015 (UTC)


https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Talk:Tonal_Bitcoin
:: "Planned" implies the inherent uncertainty of any future event. Until it happens, it is always uncertain. --[[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] ([[User talk:Luke-jr|talk]]) 06:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)


To avoid having this article reappear, it might be best to blank the page while keeping it protected. [[User:Lunokhod|Lunokhod]] ([[User talk:Lunokhod|talk]]) 09:42, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
::: Do you think we should keep the "soon" template or otherwise distinguish scheduled implementations from dry internal speculation? [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 14:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
:See below [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:25, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


==Proposed block of user [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]]==
:::: [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]], Thanks for your input here. [[User:Taras|Taras]], I think there is no reason to not keep both templates. However, in the case of [[PS Coin]] the "Soon" template should be used. Other exchanges may appropriately need to use a "planned" template instead. [[User:Bliljerk101|Bliljerk101]] ([[User talk:Bliljerk101|talk]]) 18:29, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, in addition to the above proposed article deletion, with further research and run ins with the "overseer" of that page, I kindly ask that you consider blocking the user account [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]]. I have never once asked such a thing before on any of the wiki's I edit, so I do not do so lightly.


To summarize:
== Dokuwiki revisions ==


# If you look at the editing history of [[Tonal Bitcoin]], you will see that user Luke-Jr has reverted almost every single edit that has been made to this page. This has been done with no discussion on the talk page. This manner in which the edits are reverted are done so in a fanatical way, and this applies to several users that have attempted to contribute to this page, not just one.
One thing that might cause trouble: Mark started bitcoin.it and tried to get everyone to move to it, but there was a period of time when it was uncertain whether the community would want to switch from the old wiki to this one, so the two wikis competed for a time (perhaps as long as a month or two). Therefore, there might be some edit conflicts that can't be easily resolved. Then again, both wikis had very low activity at the time, so maybe there won't be any conflicts. [[User:Theymos|theymos]] ([[User talk:Theymos|talk]]) 06:41, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
# If you look at the history of the talk pages, you will see that several people have made sensible comments. Furthermore several people have previously made arguements for why this page should be deleted. However, Luke-jr has consistently removed these comments from the talk page, affectively stopping all further discussion, or ending in a revert-war. Though it is common to to have differences in the content of a wiki page, I have never seen a user in my life revert to removing comments and discussions posted on the talk page.
:I've trimmed any revisions that occurred after Mark started bitcoin.it, leaving the ones that were present in the text that you imported in 2010. I'm pretty sure everything will be alright. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 15:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
# With regard to the above point, I emphasize that Gavin Andresen himself (!) commented on the talk page, suggesting that this page be removed. Luke -Jr had the gaul to even remove this comment from such a member of high standing in the bitcoin community.
# If you look at this user's talk page, you will notice that he has consistently blanked his page after receiving comments about his edits on other pages.
# If you look at his editing history, you will see that he consistently makes edits that go against community consensus, all while giving little-to-no justification.
# Finally, as seen in the tonal bitcoin forum, he accuses all members that are not on his side (i.e., everyone in the tonal bitcoin case) to be trolling. At the very least, this is not very kind. At the worst, this behavior is itself trolling.


[[User:Lunokhod|Lunokhod]] ([[User talk:Lunokhod|talk]]) 10:10, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
== Comparison of VPS providers list ==
:It's really not my place to block Luke. While I agree that TBC doesn't belong on the list of alts, it '''does''' constitute an article of its own (even if it may need some rewording) and Luke is otherwise a contributing member of this wiki. I dislike that he blanks talk pages for being against his ideals, over the guise of being simply "trolling," however he is right that TBC is in no violation [[Bitcoin:About|of any guidelines on the wiki]] and his actions would not constitute a block on my behalf. Regardless, I appreciate you trying to improve this wiki. If Luke ''does'' get blocked, or TBC is deleted, it will not be my doing.<br/>[[Image:No.png|18px|link=|alt=]] '''Rejected''' [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:25, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
:PS - You may want to consult [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=168.0 the forum] for this. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:31, 22 August 2014 (UTC)


:: Thanks for the quick response. If you think that it is acceptable for users to remove comments from the talk page, when they are reasoned and written in the best interest of this wiki, then I don't know if I really want to be part of this community. In any case, I wish you all the best of luck here. It's not always easy to deal with these types of personalities (mine included!). [[User:Lunokhod|Lunokhod]] ([[User talk:Lunokhod|talk]]) 08:31, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
I see the list of hosting providers providing VPS is disappeared because there is no body to take care. If it is possible, Can I take the charge of that page ?<br>
I promise that I will not be biassed and I will be neutral to the list. {{unsigned|RockHoster|15:34, 1 May 2015 (UTC)}}


== Ico template bug ==
If it is possible, Can I also get the last list prepared to make a new list ? {{unsigned|RockHoster|15:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)}}
:It disappeared because it was a useless soapbox, not because nobody took care of it. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 13:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)


[[:Template:Ico]] appears outside of the content area on the MonoBook theme. If you have time, could you look into this? If not, I might try fixing it later, but I won't have time for a while. Thanks. [[User:Theymos|theymos]] ([[User talk:Theymos|talk]]) 20:00, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
== Adding new exchanges ==
:I will definitely be looking into this. Thank you for bringing it to my attention! [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:25, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
::I moved the images around a bit, and I think they look nice on both themes for now. There might be a better solution in the future. See [[Bitcoin]], the only page with all three icons. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:59, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
:::Looks good, thanks! [[User:Theymos|theymos]] ([[User talk:Theymos|talk]]) 02:16, 29 August 2014 (UTC)


== Adding Trucoin to the Buying Bitcoins; Newbie Version ==
Could you please add our exchange service 247exchange.com to the list? We're fixed-rate exchange. We accept credit & debit cards (prepaid ones are also supported), bank wire transfer, SEPA, express cash transfers (through MoneyPolo system and its partners), etc. Our service is easy-to-use, even for newbies, having 24/7 support and detailed knowledgebase. No need to create additional payment accounts or wallets with our service. Verification is required. The service isn't available in USA yet. {{unsigned|Soldier|06:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)}}
:Which list are you referring to? [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 13:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
::This one: [[Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version)]] - we accept Credit Card, Bank Transfer, Cash. Thanks. {{unsigned|Soldier|08:27, 5 June 2015‎ (UTC)}}


Hi, I noticed editing is restricted on the 'buying bitcoins: newbie version' article. Can you please add Trucoin to the credit card entry?
== Buying Bitcoins (the newbie version) ==


=== Trucoin.com ===
This page is outdated, buggy and needs improvement.
[http://trucoin.com/ Trucoin] - allows users to buy Bitcoin with credit and debit cards. Trucoin is the first properly licensed money service business to offer this service and serves U.S. customers in Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, American Samoa, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Wake Island, West Virginia, and Wyoming, with more states and worldwide locations coming soon.
I can help you with that if you like.
{{unsigned|PlusBitcoin|09:24, 9 June 2015‎ (UTC)}}
:I don't like where the page is going in general. Honestly I think it should be removed or trimmed heavily. I'll be on the IRC channel some time to discuss this. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 03:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


{{unsigned|Bitcoinsource|17:23, 18 November 2014 (UTC)}}
== What Happened with AnonCleanCoin page? ==
:I took care of it :) [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 21:34, 19 November 2014 (UTC)


  -- Thanks! May also want to add CoinMX.org:  
What Happened with AnonCleanCoin page? {{unsigned|CleanCo|22:00, 28 July 2015‎ (UTC)}}


=== CoinMX ===
:Sorry, but new mixing services are not welcome on the wiki. They are almost always of fraudulent or otherwise malicious intent, and are made obsolete by CoinJoin/DarkWallet anyways. I hope you understand; if your service becomes notable or trusted in the future, then it may warrant a page here. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 17:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
[http://www.coin.mx CoinMX] - Accepts worldwide users (mainly from the US). you can use your credit card to fund your CoinMX account and buy BTC or LTC currencies. Requires verification of identity by sending a video holding a government issued ID (e.g. passport) to the site.


== Adding BittyBot to Buying Bitcoins (the newbie version) ==
== Cubits ==


Hi, please could you add BittyBot to the "Buying Bitcoins (the newbie version)" page. It probably needs to be in a new subheading for "Price Comparison"
Hi Taras,


===Price Comparison===
We wanted to check if you could add us to some of the following pages?


[http://bittybot.co.uk BittyBot] - allows users to compare different bitcoin sellers and prices in UK.
-https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trading_bitcoins
-https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Help:Getting_started
-https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version)
-https://de.bitcoin.it/wiki/Erste_Schritte


== Bitcoin-Qt move ==


Can you move [[Bitcoin-Qt]] to [[Bitcoin Core]]? I can't because [[Bitcoin Core]] has edit history. Thanks. [[User:Theymos|theymos]] ([[User talk:Theymos|talk]]) 16:26, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
 
:I took care of it! Also, can we have the old wiki's database? I'd like to import its revisions for historical completeness. [[User:Taras|Taras]] ([[User talk:Taras|talk]]) 01:05, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Cubits is operational for more than a year now, we are known manly for our wallet, and direct buy options that allow almost instant BTC conversion.
We were covered by Techcrunch, International Business Times and others. Recently we enabled Bitcoin withdrawals on 4000 ATMs in Poland...
 
Listing us would be really appreciated.
 
== Comparison of cryptocurrencies ==
 
I've made significant edits on [[Comparison of cryptocurrencies]]. Should the Bitcoin Testnet's be on the list? I [https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_cryptocurrencies&oldid=62791 removed them]. If you think they should be on the list then we should add that as a criteria to be listed. --[[User:Davidhedlund|Davidhedlund]] ([[User talk:Davidhedlund|talk]]) 21:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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247exchange

Could you please add the exchange service 247exchange.com to this list https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version) ? 247exchange is a fixed-rate exchange. Accepting credit & debit cards, bank wire transfer, SEPA, express cash transfers (through MoneyPolo system and its partners), etc. Also, coin.mx seems dead, so, I guess, it's better to remove it from the list. Thanks.

Bitcoin Fog

Could you remove bitcoin fog advertisment from bitcoin wiki, because it scammed a lot of people? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pampa (talk • contribs) at 20:20, 5 March 2015 (UTC)‎

See Talk:Bitcoin Fog --Taras (talk) 21:36, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Can you at least consult with me

...before editing "every" thing I write. Isn't that the point of this being a community wiki and not a centralized wiki?

Why did you rename the PS Coin page (see how I'm consulting first before just undo-ing)?

Additionally, I changed the "planned" template you edited back to "soon" which I originally had made - there is a very literal distinction between those words. Planned would imply uncertainty. We've already tackled the sufficient regulatory hurdles necessary, minus one additional step which we're in the process of completing now.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bliljerk101 (talk • contribs) at 23:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Is PS Coin really called "PS Coin - incentivized exchange"? They write that down as their name all the time? If it is, go ahead and put it back.
I just feel the distinction would help in this case, since it's radically different than other exchanges (no other exchanges have an incentivized algorithm like PS Coin - it really should be in a category of its own) Bliljerk101 (talk) 18:29, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Also, "Planned" does not imply uncertainty. It is only used when implementation is imminent. Taras (talk) 14:37, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
"Planned" implies the inherent uncertainty of any future event. Until it happens, it is always uncertain. --Luke-jr (talk) 06:09, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Do you think we should keep the "soon" template or otherwise distinguish scheduled implementations from dry internal speculation? Taras (talk) 14:26, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Luke-jr, Thanks for your input here. Taras, I think there is no reason to not keep both templates. However, in the case of PS Coin the "Soon" template should be used. Other exchanges may appropriately need to use a "planned" template instead. Bliljerk101 (talk) 18:29, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Dokuwiki revisions

One thing that might cause trouble: Mark started bitcoin.it and tried to get everyone to move to it, but there was a period of time when it was uncertain whether the community would want to switch from the old wiki to this one, so the two wikis competed for a time (perhaps as long as a month or two). Therefore, there might be some edit conflicts that can't be easily resolved. Then again, both wikis had very low activity at the time, so maybe there won't be any conflicts. theymos (talk) 06:41, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I've trimmed any revisions that occurred after Mark started bitcoin.it, leaving the ones that were present in the text that you imported in 2010. I'm pretty sure everything will be alright. Taras (talk) 15:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Comparison of VPS providers list

I see the list of hosting providers providing VPS is disappeared because there is no body to take care. If it is possible, Can I take the charge of that page ?
I promise that I will not be biassed and I will be neutral to the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RockHoster (talk • contribs) at 15:34, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

If it is possible, Can I also get the last list prepared to make a new list ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RockHoster (talk • contribs) at 15:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

It disappeared because it was a useless soapbox, not because nobody took care of it. Taras (talk) 13:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Adding new exchanges

Could you please add our exchange service 247exchange.com to the list? We're fixed-rate exchange. We accept credit & debit cards (prepaid ones are also supported), bank wire transfer, SEPA, express cash transfers (through MoneyPolo system and its partners), etc. Our service is easy-to-use, even for newbies, having 24/7 support and detailed knowledgebase. No need to create additional payment accounts or wallets with our service. Verification is required. The service isn't available in USA yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soldier (talk • contribs) at 06:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Which list are you referring to? Taras (talk) 13:29, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
This one: Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version) - we accept Credit Card, Bank Transfer, Cash. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soldier (talk • contribs) at 08:27, 5 June 2015‎ (UTC)

Buying Bitcoins (the newbie version)

This page is outdated, buggy and needs improvement. I can help you with that if you like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlusBitcoin (talk • contribs) at 09:24, 9 June 2015‎ (UTC)

I don't like where the page is going in general. Honestly I think it should be removed or trimmed heavily. I'll be on the IRC channel some time to discuss this. Taras (talk) 03:31, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

What Happened with AnonCleanCoin page?

What Happened with AnonCleanCoin page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CleanCo (talk • contribs) at 22:00, 28 July 2015‎ (UTC)

Sorry, but new mixing services are not welcome on the wiki. They are almost always of fraudulent or otherwise malicious intent, and are made obsolete by CoinJoin/DarkWallet anyways. I hope you understand; if your service becomes notable or trusted in the future, then it may warrant a page here. Taras (talk) 17:30, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Cubits

Hi Taras,

We wanted to check if you could add us to some of the following pages?

-https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trading_bitcoins -https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Help:Getting_started -https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_Bitcoins_(the_newbie_version) -https://de.bitcoin.it/wiki/Erste_Schritte


Cubits is operational for more than a year now, we are known manly for our wallet, and direct buy options that allow almost instant BTC conversion. We were covered by Techcrunch, International Business Times and others. Recently we enabled Bitcoin withdrawals on 4000 ATMs in Poland...

Listing us would be really appreciated.

Comparison of cryptocurrencies

I've made significant edits on Comparison of cryptocurrencies. Should the Bitcoin Testnet's be on the list? I removed them. If you think they should be on the list then we should add that as a criteria to be listed. --Davidhedlund (talk) 21:16, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

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