ICBIT: Difference between revisions

From Bitcoin Wiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Sgornick (talk | contribs)
→‎USD: Remove defunct methods.
Davidhedlund (talk | contribs)
 
(229 intermediate revisions by 6 users not shown)
Line 1: Line 1:
ICBIT is a trading website which runs a few markets. Both the USD/BTC exchange and Futures markets are live now, however the most active is the Futures market.
There have been reports that icbit is a scam.
'''''Any person sending money to them should do due diligence first.'''''<ref>[http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/ Article by Mircea Popescu, proprietor of MPEx]</ref> <ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125376.0 Bitcointalk "bucket shop" thread]</ref> <ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246845 Bitcointalk "icbit warning" thread]</ref>


ICBIT is a trading website which has a few sections. Both the currency and futures sections are live.
== Counterparty risks ==
The ICBIT site acts as the central intermediary for trades in futures contracts.  It does not act as a final guarantor for the clearing process itself, with the results of the clearing process still ultimately dependent upon the counterparty risk exposure to other traders. Thus, the exchange does not act as a counterparty.


This site is said<sup>[source?]</sup> to be founded by Fireball and [[DeepBit]] by combining best practices in high-performance trading and Bitcoin experience.
In some cases, icbit may attempt to make up the difference using a margin call, but this is not guaranteed. The policy for this is explained on the [https://icbit.se/margincall ICBIT website].
 
Technically ICBIT is not an exchange since it does not act as a central counterparty. [https://icbit.se/margincall According to their website] users '''are totally exposed to counterparty risk from other traders''' whose identities are concealed from them; the exchange does not pledge its own assets to back the other side of a customer's position.  Traders are not allowed to conduct background or reputation checks of any kind on these anonymous counterparties.


== Features ==
== Features ==
Line 14: Line 11:
* Speed of trading. Bitcoin forum is full of anger against slowness of existing exchanges. ICBIT implements special high performance trading engine and uses high-performance "no SQL" database to eliminate the problem.
* Speed of trading. Bitcoin forum is full of anger against slowness of existing exchanges. ICBIT implements special high performance trading engine and uses high-performance "no SQL" database to eliminate the problem.
* No limits. Most of the existing exchanges put rather restrictive limitations and require users to prove their identity. ICBIT finds this totally unacceptable and does not put any limits at all.
* No limits. Most of the existing exchanges put rather restrictive limitations and require users to prove their identity. ICBIT finds this totally unacceptable and does not put any limits at all.
* "Specialize on what you do best". For handling fiat money ICBIT partnered with [[AurumXChange Company|AurumXchange]] which provides an unmatched set of depositing/withdrawal services for US dollars and other currencies.
==Exchange==
Traded on the exchange are:
* BTC/USD
* BTC/RUB (Russian Ruble)
* DB.RCLMR bond (bonds that can be exchanged for purchase of [[Mining_hardware_comparison#Reclaimer|DeepBit Reclaimer]] ASIC hardware)


==Futures==
==Futures==
Futures traded include:
Futures traded include:


* [https://icbit.se/BUH3 BUH3] (Futures contract, expires March 15, 2012, settled in BTC)
Futures contracts on USD/BTC rate
* [https://icbit.se/CLG3 CLG3] (Crude Oil Futures contract, expires February 14, 2013, settled and quoted in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/BUQ3 BUQ3] (expires August 15, 2013, settled in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/GDG3 GDG3] (Gold Futures contract, expires February 14, 2013, settled and quoted in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/BUU3 BUU3] (expires September 16, 2013, settled in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/BUV3 BUV3] (expires October 14, 2013, settled in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/BUZ3 BUZ3] (expires December 16, 2013, settled in BTC)


Settled futures:
Futures contract on Bitcoin difficulty
* [https://icbit.se/BUZ2 BUZ2] (Futures contract, expired December 15, 2012, settled in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/DFU3 DFU3] (expires September 16, 2013, settled in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/DFZ3 DFZ3] (expires December 16, 2013, settled in BTC)


==Adding Funds==
Futures contract on LTC/BTC rate
* [https://icbit.se/LBU3 LBU3] (expires September 17, 2013, settled in BTC)


===BTC===
Futures contract on S&P500 index
* [https://icbit.se/ESU3 ESU3] (expires September 16, 2013, settled in BTC)


There is no fee for Bitcoin deposits to the account's BTC EWallet. Funds are added to the account's wallet after six (6) confirmations.
Settled futures:
* [https://icbit.se/BUZ2 BUZ2] (Futures contract, expired December 15, 2012, settled in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/BUH3 BUH3] (Futures contract, expired March 15, 2013, settled in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/CLG3 CLG3] (Crude Oil Futures contract, expired February 14, 2013, settled and quoted in BTC)
* [https://icbit.se/GDG3 GDG3] (Gold Futures contract, expired February 14, 2013, settled and quoted in BTC)


===USD===
==Exchange==
Traded on the exchange are:


There are no methods to add USD funds.
* BTC/USD
* BTC/RUB (Russian Ruble)


===RUB===


QIWI vouchers can be used to add funds to an account's Russian ruble EWallet.
==Depositing==


Bitcoin: There is no fee for Bitcoin deposits to the account's BTC EWallet.  Funds are added to the account's wallet after six (6) confirmations. Transactions made by [[DeepBit]] mining pool are added instantly.


==Widthraw Funds==
USD: There are no methods to add USD funds.


===BTC===
RUB: QIWI vouchers can be used to add funds to an account's Russian ruble EWallet.


There is no fee for Bitcoin withdrawals from the account's BTC EWallet.


===USD===
==Withdrawing==


Funds can be withdrawn from the account's USD EWallet as VouchX [[redeemable code|redeemable codes]] from [[AurumXChange Company|AurumXChange]].
BTC: There is no fee for Bitcoin withdrawals from the account's BTC EWallet.


===RUB===
USD: There are no USD withdrawal methods.


Funds can be withdrawn from the account's Russian ruble EWallet as QIWI vouchers.
RUB: Funds can be withdrawn from the account's Russian ruble EWallet as QIWI vouchers.


==Security==
==Security==
Line 72: Line 71:


Finally in January, 2012 the currency exchange section went live <ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60548.0 Bitcointalk announcement of a new exchange live testing]</ref>
Finally in January, 2012 the currency exchange section went live <ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60548.0 Bitcointalk announcement of a new exchange live testing]</ref>
== Criticism ==
−''''' There have been complaints about several core practices at icbit.'''''−
-The primary complaint involves contract price manipulations that allow larger traders, including the site owner, to make profits from smaller traders regardless of bitcoin price movements.
The first comprehensive post questioning various practices at icbit is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125376.0
Examples of contract manipulations, including screenshots, is included in some complaints, including https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246845
Complaints directed to the owner of icbit, who also is the principle contributor to this wiki page, include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173928.0
−'''Any potential investor should thoroughly understand the issues raised in the complaints. If you are not sure please ask questions in a public forum like bitcointalk.org and do not invest until all questions are answered to your satisfaction.'''−<ref>[http://trilema.com/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/ Article by Mircea Popescu, proprietor of MPEx]</ref> <ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173928.0]</ref> <ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125376.0 Bitcointalk "bucket shop" thread]</ref> <ref>[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246845 Bitcointalk "icbit warning" thread]</ref>
ICBIT is a trading website which runs a few markets. Both the Exchange and Futures markets are live now.
'''ICBIT is not an exchange''' since it does not act as a central counterparty. [http://web.archive.org/web/20130510221928/https://icbit.se/margincall According to their website] users '''are totally exposed to counterparty risk from other traders''' whose identities are concealed from them; the exchange does not pledge its own assets to back the full extent of the other side of a customer's position -- it pledges only "as much to profiting traders as loosing traders lost (in total)".  Traders are not allowed to conduct background or reputation checks of any kind on these anonymous counterparties.  ICBIT recently modified the linked page and it '''now contains self-contradictory information,''' such as "we do pledge our own assets, it's not always the case" and "your profitable position will be closed" at whatever price the exchange deems convenient rather than value-at-maturity.  Since the exchange pledges only "as much to profiting traders as loosing traders lost (in total)" it is, by definition, not the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterparty counterparty] -- the "loosing [sic] traders" are the counterparty.
A third party's blogger's assessment<ref>http://psychologicalinvestor.com/lib/real-markets/bitcoin-derivatives-liquidity-counterparty-risk-134/</ref> of the situation is that "ICBIT it is not acting as a clearing house, nor is it the counterparty to the futures trades it brokers.  There is no clearing house guarantee, and counterparty risk remains largely unknown."  The aforementioned blog also contains a rebuttal from ICBIT.
This site is said<sup>[source?]</sup> to be founded by Fireball and [[DeepBit]] by combining best practices in high-performance trading and Bitcoin experience.
At one point in the past, somebody who goes by the identifier "Fireball" [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1402414#msg1402414 voluntarily took the took one "bad customers" debt].  Fireball is believed to be the owner of icbit and the principle contributor to this wiki page. He is alleged to have a history of 'refunding' bitcoin when there is a threat that improper practices may be exposed. See http://trilema.com/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/ and then note the post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.0 which was apparently made after Fireball returned "~500 BTC".


==See Also==
==See Also==
Line 81: Line 103:
* [https://icbit.se ICBIT] website.
* [https://icbit.se ICBIT] website.
* [https://icbit.se/WebTrade/ Trading client] Direct link to the web trading client logon.
* [https://icbit.se/WebTrade/ Trading client] Direct link to the web trading client logon.
* At one point in the past, somebody who goes by the identifier "Fireball" [https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50817.msg1402414#msg1402414 voluntarily took the took one "bad customers" debt].




Line 87: Line 108:
<references />
<references />


[[Category:Exchanges]]
[[Category:Defunct exchanges]]
[[Category:Stock_Exchanges]]
[[Category:Stock_Exchanges]]
[[Category:Bonds_Markets]]
[[Category:Bonds_Markets]]
[[Category:Futures_Exchanges]]
[[Category:Futures_Exchanges]]
[[Category:Investing]]
[[Category:Investing]]

Latest revision as of 22:32, 10 June 2017

ICBIT is a trading website which runs a few markets. Both the USD/BTC exchange and Futures markets are live now, however the most active is the Futures market.

Counterparty risks

The ICBIT site acts as the central intermediary for trades in futures contracts. It does not act as a final guarantor for the clearing process itself, with the results of the clearing process still ultimately dependent upon the counterparty risk exposure to other traders. Thus, the exchange does not act as a counterparty.

In some cases, icbit may attempt to make up the difference using a margin call, but this is not guaranteed. The policy for this is explained on the ICBIT website.

Features

For its currency exchange section ICBIT makes an accent on the following:

  • State-of-the-art technologies usage. Instead of using old, slow, polling-based algorithms ICBIT builds atop of the most up to date technologies. Its web trading client is in pure HTML and JavaScript (even compatible with most mobile devices), however it's fully realtime thanks to websockets and AJAX.
  • Speed of trading. Bitcoin forum is full of anger against slowness of existing exchanges. ICBIT implements special high performance trading engine and uses high-performance "no SQL" database to eliminate the problem.
  • No limits. Most of the existing exchanges put rather restrictive limitations and require users to prove their identity. ICBIT finds this totally unacceptable and does not put any limits at all.

Futures

Futures traded include:

Futures contracts on USD/BTC rate

  • BUQ3 (expires August 15, 2013, settled in BTC)
  • BUU3 (expires September 16, 2013, settled in BTC)
  • BUV3 (expires October 14, 2013, settled in BTC)
  • BUZ3 (expires December 16, 2013, settled in BTC)

Futures contract on Bitcoin difficulty

  • DFU3 (expires September 16, 2013, settled in BTC)
  • DFZ3 (expires December 16, 2013, settled in BTC)

Futures contract on LTC/BTC rate

  • LBU3 (expires September 17, 2013, settled in BTC)

Futures contract on S&P500 index

  • ESU3 (expires September 16, 2013, settled in BTC)

Settled futures:

  • BUZ2 (Futures contract, expired December 15, 2012, settled in BTC)
  • BUH3 (Futures contract, expired March 15, 2013, settled in BTC)
  • CLG3 (Crude Oil Futures contract, expired February 14, 2013, settled and quoted in BTC)
  • GDG3 (Gold Futures contract, expired February 14, 2013, settled and quoted in BTC)

Exchange

Traded on the exchange are:

  • BTC/USD
  • BTC/RUB (Russian Ruble)


Depositing

Bitcoin: There is no fee for Bitcoin deposits to the account's BTC EWallet. Funds are added to the account's wallet after six (6) confirmations. Transactions made by DeepBit mining pool are added instantly.

USD: There are no methods to add USD funds.

RUB: QIWI vouchers can be used to add funds to an account's Russian ruble EWallet.


Withdrawing

BTC: There is no fee for Bitcoin withdrawals from the account's BTC EWallet.

USD: There are no USD withdrawal methods.

RUB: Funds can be withdrawn from the account's Russian ruble EWallet as QIWI vouchers.

Security

Accounts can be protected where both login and any money withdrawal operation requires the one-time password (OTP) feature known as two-step authentication. A mobile smartphone with Google Authenticator is the most commonly used OTP device.

History

First mentions of ICBIT appeared in June and July 2011 in the Bitcoin Stock Exchange Security Standards thread at bitcointalk.org[1] and Bitcoin futures market discussion [2]. By that time a very first version of the trading engine was developed.

A more detailed thread specific to ICBIT futures market was started [3] in November, 2011. The first closed test of futures market was performed, and work on the new version of web trading client was started.

Finally in January, 2012 the currency exchange section went live [4]

Criticism

There have been complaints about several core practices at icbit.

-The primary complaint involves contract price manipulations that allow larger traders, including the site owner, to make profits from smaller traders regardless of bitcoin price movements.

The first comprehensive post questioning various practices at icbit is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125376.0

Examples of contract manipulations, including screenshots, is included in some complaints, including https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=246845

Complaints directed to the owner of icbit, who also is the principle contributor to this wiki page, include https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173928.0

Any potential investor should thoroughly understand the issues raised in the complaints. If you are not sure please ask questions in a public forum like bitcointalk.org and do not invest until all questions are answered to your satisfaction.[5] [6] [7] [8]

ICBIT is a trading website which runs a few markets. Both the Exchange and Futures markets are live now.

ICBIT is not an exchange since it does not act as a central counterparty. According to their website users are totally exposed to counterparty risk from other traders whose identities are concealed from them; the exchange does not pledge its own assets to back the full extent of the other side of a customer's position -- it pledges only "as much to profiting traders as loosing traders lost (in total)". Traders are not allowed to conduct background or reputation checks of any kind on these anonymous counterparties. ICBIT recently modified the linked page and it now contains self-contradictory information, such as "we do pledge our own assets, it's not always the case" and "your profitable position will be closed" at whatever price the exchange deems convenient rather than value-at-maturity. Since the exchange pledges only "as much to profiting traders as loosing traders lost (in total)" it is, by definition, not the counterparty -- the "loosing [sic] traders" are the counterparty.

A third party's blogger's assessment[9] of the situation is that "ICBIT it is not acting as a clearing house, nor is it the counterparty to the futures trades it brokers. There is no clearing house guarantee, and counterparty risk remains largely unknown." The aforementioned blog also contains a rebuttal from ICBIT.

This site is said[source?] to be founded by Fireball and DeepBit by combining best practices in high-performance trading and Bitcoin experience.

At one point in the past, somebody who goes by the identifier "Fireball" voluntarily took the took one "bad customers" debt. Fireball is believed to be the owner of icbit and the principle contributor to this wiki page. He is alleged to have a history of 'refunding' bitcoin when there is a threat that improper practices may be exposed. See http://trilema.com/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/ and then note the post at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.0 which was apparently made after Fireball returned "~500 BTC".

See Also

External Links


References