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	There's a bounty for the article at ~~http~~://~~www.bitcoin~~.org~~/smf~~/index.php?topic=2602		There's a bounty for the article at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2602
	Thanks for the link to Sawzall's Tor page. I did not know that.		Thanks for the link to Sawzall's Tor page. I did not know that.
	I shouldn't probably edit directly the main article either and should write it in my user space first.		I shouldn't probably edit directly the main article either and should write it in my user space first.
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	In addition, the bitcoin client does not resolve dns, so if you have any nodes added whose dns/.onion addresses are not resolved the connection will fail. You can find an explanation and instructions here ~~http~~://~~www.bitcoin~~.org~~/smf~~/index.php?topic=59.0;all#msg14635		In addition, the bitcoin client does not resolve dns, so if you have any nodes added whose dns/.onion addresses are not resolved the connection will fail. You can find an explanation and instructions here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=59.0;all#msg14635

	== Configuration tips ==		== Configuration tips ==

Cockssn at 18:55, 24 July 2011

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	::For browsing, download [http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Firefox Portable] and install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275/ Torbutton] on it. Privoxy/Polipo are not necessary. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 08:45, 13 January 2011 (GMT)		::For browsing, download [http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Firefox Portable] and install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275/ Torbutton] on it. Privoxy/Polipo are not necessary. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 08:45, 13 January 2011 (GMT)

			== tor hidden service ==

			"For clients, hidden services are more secure than encrypted Tor HTTPS connections because the destination's ISP isn't involved as they are in the HTTPS case."

			the isp isn't receiving https traffic, but the timing attacks don't rely on the protocol being https. how can the destination isp or the final relay not aid in a timing attack?

Ptmhd: /* Proposal to rename/split Tor page */

2011-05-02T20:56:44Z

Proposal to rename/split Tor page

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	As an aside note we ought to, at the very least, trim down the mIRC section. It is after all, a shareware product. There are more appropriate free open source alternatives that already have SASL support built-in or have implementations that are not broken.		As an aside note we ought to, at the very least, trim down the mIRC section. It is after all, a shareware product. There are more appropriate free open source alternatives that already have SASL support built-in or have implementations that are not broken.

			(note1 from ptmhd - i'm back on the wiki editing, i will trim the irc part to bare minimum (also because it is now much easier to setup)

	== Tor + Firefox ==		== Tor + Firefox ==

Echelon: Moved proposal to top of page

2011-02-25T00:35:59Z

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			== Proposal to rename/split Tor page ==

			Much of the content here details information that is irrelevant to the subject of Bitcoin. I propose we create a separate wiki page for "Freenode" as that is what the main topic appears to be. We can keep a Tor page for issues related to Tor/Bitcoin and hidden service fallback nodes.

			As an aside note we ought to, at the very least, trim down the mIRC section. It is after all, a shareware product. There are more appropriate free open source alternatives that already have SASL support built-in or have implementations that are not broken.

	== Tor + Firefox ==		== Tor + Firefox ==

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	::For browsing, download [http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Firefox Portable] and install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275/ Torbutton] on it. Privoxy/Polipo are not necessary. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 08:45, 13 January 2011 (GMT)		::For browsing, download [http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Firefox Portable] and install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275/ Torbutton] on it. Privoxy/Polipo are not necessary. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 08:45, 13 January 2011 (GMT)

	~~== Proposal to rename/split Tor page ==~~

	Much of the content here details information that is irrelevant to the subject of Bitcoin. I propose we create a separate wiki page for "Freenode" as that is what the main topic appears to be. We can keep a Tor page for issues related Tor and Bitcoin and hidden service fallback nodes.

	As an aside note we ought to, at the very least, trim down the mIRC section. It is after all, a shareware product. There are more appropriate free open source alternatives that already have SASL support built-in or have implementations that are not broken.

Echelon: /* Proposal to rename/split Tor page */ new section

2011-02-25T00:29:03Z

Proposal to rename/split Tor page: new section

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	::For browsing, download [http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Firefox Portable] and install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275/ Torbutton] on it. Privoxy/Polipo are not necessary. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 08:45, 13 January 2011 (GMT)		::For browsing, download [http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Firefox Portable] and install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275/ Torbutton] on it. Privoxy/Polipo are not necessary. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 08:45, 13 January 2011 (GMT)

			== Proposal to rename/split Tor page ==

			Much of the content here details information that is irrelevant to the subject of Bitcoin. I propose we create a separate wiki page for "Freenode" as that is what the main topic appears to be. We can keep a Tor page for issues related Tor and Bitcoin and hidden service fallback nodes.

			As an aside note we ought to, at the very least, trim down the mIRC section. It is after all, a shareware product. There are more appropriate free open source alternatives that already have SASL support built-in or have implementations that are not broken.

Echelon: /* hidden services */

2011-02-22T05:01:08Z

hidden services

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	rather than trying to keep a separate list of bitcoind as hidden services, it's probably better to link to the existing list of [[fallback nodes]], which already has a few tor hidden services listed.		rather than trying to keep a separate list of bitcoind as hidden services, it's probably better to link to the existing list of [[fallback nodes]], which already has a few tor hidden services listed.


			In addition, the bitcoin client does not resolve dns, so if you have any nodes added whose dns/.onion addresses are not resolved the connection will fail. You can find an explanation and instructions here http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=59.0;all#msg14635

	== Configuration tips ==		== Configuration tips ==

Theymos: /* Configuration tips */

2011-01-13T08:45:17Z

Configuration tips

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	* for the benefit of all users that run windows, would like to use Bitcoin client + IRC + browse the web via Tor, what would you recommend?		* for the benefit of all users that run windows, would like to use Bitcoin client + IRC + browse the web via Tor, what would you recommend?
	[[User:Ptmhd\|Ptmhd]] 23:42, 12 January 2011 (GMT+1)		[[User:Ptmhd\|Ptmhd]] 23:42, 12 January 2011 (GMT+1)
			::Just download the expert bundle, make the torrc modifications I suggested (except the MaxCircuitDirtiness one), run it, and connect Bitcoin to localhost:9050. Same for IRC. If having the Tor window open all the time annoys you, minimize it to the tray with [http://www.abstractpath.com/powermenu/ PowerMenu]. There are also command-line options to tor.exe that [https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#HowdoIrunmyTorrelayasanNTservice create a Tor NT service] -- this is a good idea if you run Tor constantly.

			::I never tried using IRC over Tor, so I can't recommend any particular IRC client. As a general rule, however, programs meant to be [http://portableapps.com/ portable] provide better anonymity.

			::For browsing, download [http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable Firefox Portable] and install [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2275/ Torbutton] on it. Privoxy/Polipo are not necessary. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 08:45, 13 January 2011 (GMT)

Ptmhd at 22:53, 12 January 2011

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	Summary: The Tor bundles suck. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 09:21, 9 January 2011 (GMT)		Summary: The Tor bundles suck. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 09:21, 9 January 2011 (GMT)

			* for the benefit of all users that run windows, would like to use Bitcoin client + IRC + browse the web via Tor, what would you recommend?
			[[User:Ptmhd\|Ptmhd]] 23:42, 12 January 2011 (GMT+1)

Ptmhd: /* additional content? */

2011-01-12T17:27:29Z

additional content?

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	--[[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] 05:39, 9 January 2011 (GMT)		--[[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] 05:39, 9 January 2011 (GMT)


			There's a bounty for the article at http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=2602
			Thanks for the link to Sawzall's Tor page. I did not know that.
			I shouldn't probably edit directly the main article either and should write it in my user space first.
			I have no wiki writing habbits :(
			As for the xchat, I do not do IRC since I left school and installed it after 7 years only to write the Freenode + Tor + SASL howto.

			--[[User:Ptmhd\|Ptmhd]] 18:20, 12 January 2011 (GMT)

	== hidden services ==		== hidden services ==

Theymos: /* Configuration tips */ new section

2011-01-09T09:21:06Z

Configuration tips: new section

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	rather than trying to keep a separate list of bitcoind as hidden services, it's probably better to link to the existing list of [[fallback nodes]], which already has a few tor hidden services listed.		rather than trying to keep a separate list of bitcoind as hidden services, it's probably better to link to the existing list of [[fallback nodes]], which already has a few tor hidden services listed.

			== Configuration tips ==

			In torrc:
			CircuitBuildTimeout 30 #Picks faster nodes
			LearnCircuitBuildTimeout 0 #Enables the above setting
			MaxCircuitDirtiness 1200 #The number of seconds between each enforced IP change.
			#Increasing it can be good in some cases.
			WarnUnsafeSocks 0 #Tor doesn't like the way Bitcoin makes requests, and spams
			#the log about it. This stops that behavior.

			* Privoxy is better than Polipo in every way. It has powerful privacy-assisting options (some disabled by default), and it can almost replace Torbutton on non-Firefox browsers. Firefox doesn't need Privoxy ''or'' Polipo because it can handle SOCKS5 natively.
			* The most secure browser configuration is Firefox + Torbutton. You must use either Privoxy or Torbutton.
			* Use standalone Tor, which outputs Tor's log to a console. ''Nearly all problems can be quickly solved by looking at the log.''
			* The official Vidalia bundles install two torrc files in different locations. One of these is useless. (Can't remember which one.)

			Summary: The Tor bundles suck. [[User:Theymos\|theymos]] 09:21, 9 January 2011 (GMT)