Talk:CryptoPayment - Revision history

Taras: unsigned

2014-04-10T13:40:27Z

unsigned

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	==Fee Reduced to 0.001 as of 22 March 2014==		==Fee Reduced to 0.001 as of 22 March 2014==
	Per the Bitcoin protocol rules, be sure that you include at least a fee of 0.0001 to ensure that this payment will eventually be mined.		Per the Bitcoin protocol rules, be sure that you include at least a fee of 0.0001 to ensure that this payment will eventually be mined.{{Unsigned\|Wtogami}}

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	Or this solution, which doesn't require code:		Or this solution, which doesn't require code:
	* put a text like "If you want to contribute, please read these instructions" in a very prominent place on the landing page.		* put a text like "If you want to contribute, please read these instructions" in a very prominent place on the landing page.
			{{Unsigned\|Sjors}}

	: You're completely right, I was thinking the same thing for a long time. I don't know how to implement it - I just asked it on [http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/44319/can-a-mediawiki-moderator-put-a-system-message-for-each-new-user webapps Stackexchange]. If you know of a good way to implement that without having access to the backened/php, let us know. [[User:Ripper234\|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234\|talk]]) 15:44, 17 May 2013 (GMT)		: You're completely right, I was thinking the same thing for a long time. I don't know how to implement it - I just asked it on [http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/44319/can-a-mediawiki-moderator-put-a-system-message-for-each-new-user webapps Stackexchange]. If you know of a good way to implement that without having access to the backened/php, let us know. [[User:Ripper234\|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234\|talk]]) 15:44, 17 May 2013 (GMT)

Nanotube: update fee amount, which is actually 0.001

2014-03-26T04:07:15Z

update fee amount, which is actually 0.001

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	==Fee Reduced to 0.~~003~~ as of 22 March 2014==		==Fee Reduced to 0.001 as of 22 March 2014==
	Per the Bitcoin protocol rules, be sure that you include at least a fee of 0.0001 to ensure that this payment will eventually be mined.		Per the Bitcoin protocol rules, be sure that you include at least a fee of 0.0001 to ensure that this payment will eventually be mined.

Wtogami at 14:21, 22 March 2014

2014-03-22T14:21:58Z

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			==Fee Reduced to 0.003 as of 22 March 2014==
			Per the Bitcoin protocol rules, be sure that you include at least a fee of 0.0001 to ensure that this payment will eventually be mined.

	==Amount reduction==		==Amount reduction==

Wtogami: Wtogami moved page Talk:BitcoinPayment to Talk:CryptoPayment: Renamed anti-spam plugin

2014-03-22T03:40:34Z

Wtogami moved page Talk:BitcoinPayment to Talk:CryptoPayment: Renamed anti-spam plugin

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Twix: /* Amount reduction */ A small reminder about how much the fee is worth...

2013-11-19T22:59:46Z

Amount reduction: A small reminder about how much the fee is worth...

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	:: This was made back when the price of BTC was in the low two digits. :) Yes payment amount could be reduced, but then you'd have to pay 0.0005 BTC fee for sending < 0.01.		:: This was made back when the price of BTC was in the low two digits. :) Yes payment amount could be reduced, but then you'd have to pay 0.0005 BTC fee for sending < 0.01.
	:: Also, 6 conf is required since this uses the MtGox payment processing API, which requires 6 conf. Not really worth it to special-case it. [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 13:47, 30 April 2013 (GMT)		:: Also, 6 conf is required since this uses the MtGox payment processing API, which requires 6 conf. Not really worth it to special-case it. [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 13:47, 30 April 2013 (GMT)

			:: To this day, the editing fee is worth 5€ or 5.5$. I already contacted MagicalTux, and posted on Bitcointalk.org (got flamed btw) while BTC was around $100, and I see that the problem is not yet answered. Thanks you MagicalTux for preventing this wiki to gain content and active users ! --[[User:Twix\|Twix]] ([[User talk:Twix\|talk]]) 22:59, 19 November 2013 (GMT)

	== Require payment for new user creation ==		== Require payment for new user creation ==

Luke-jr: /* Informing new users */

2013-05-25T04:55:56Z

Informing new users

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	:: We have edited the "no permission" message to point to BitcoinPayment. Also note that the login screen has had the prominent orange banner mentioning the requirement for BitcoinPayment all this time, also. I suppose "ideally" any user who is not trusted should get a persistent banner in the header or something, but that requires editing on the backend. [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 03:47, 24 May 2013 (GMT)		:: We have edited the "no permission" message to point to BitcoinPayment. Also note that the login screen has had the prominent orange banner mentioning the requirement for BitcoinPayment all this time, also. I suppose "ideally" any user who is not trusted should get a persistent banner in the header or something, but that requires editing on the backend. [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 03:47, 24 May 2013 (GMT)

			::: Can we change "View Source" to "Edit" so new users actually get to the explanation screen? --[[User:Luke-jr\|Luke-jr]] ([[User talk:Luke-jr\|talk]]) 04:55, 25 May 2013 (GMT)

Nanotube: /* Informing new users */

2013-05-24T03:47:57Z

Informing new users

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	: You're completely right, I was thinking the same thing for a long time. I don't know how to implement it - I just asked it on [http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/44319/can-a-mediawiki-moderator-put-a-system-message-for-each-new-user webapps Stackexchange]. If you know of a good way to implement that without having access to the backened/php, let us know. [[User:Ripper234\|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234\|talk]]) 15:44, 17 May 2013 (GMT)		: You're completely right, I was thinking the same thing for a long time. I don't know how to implement it - I just asked it on [http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/44319/can-a-mediawiki-moderator-put-a-system-message-for-each-new-user webapps Stackexchange]. If you know of a good way to implement that without having access to the backened/php, let us know. [[User:Ripper234\|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234\|talk]]) 15:44, 17 May 2013 (GMT)

			:: We have edited the "no permission" message to point to BitcoinPayment. Also note that the login screen has had the prominent orange banner mentioning the requirement for BitcoinPayment all this time, also. I suppose "ideally" any user who is not trusted should get a persistent banner in the header or something, but that requires editing on the backend. [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 03:47, 24 May 2013 (GMT)

Ripper234: /* Informing new users */

2013-05-17T15:44:42Z

Informing new users

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	Or this solution, which doesn't require code:		Or this solution, which doesn't require code:
	* put a text like "If you want to contribute, please read these instructions" in a very prominent place on the landing page.		* put a text like "If you want to contribute, please read these instructions" in a very prominent place on the landing page.


			: You're completely right, I was thinking the same thing for a long time. I don't know how to implement it - I just asked it on [http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/44319/can-a-mediawiki-moderator-put-a-system-message-for-each-new-user webapps Stackexchange]. If you know of a good way to implement that without having access to the backened/php, let us know. [[User:Ripper234\|Ripper234]] ([[User talk:Ripper234\|talk]]) 15:44, 17 May 2013 (GMT)

Sjors: /* Informing new users */ new section

2013-05-17T12:09:02Z

Informing new users: new section

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	:: Payment is only required to activate edit privileges, hence the flood of spam users. but it's not a bad idea to have it be required for user creation too, to avoid that spam. The problem is that it'd require more development, and mtux doesn't really have time to do this for the wiki right now.		:: Payment is only required to activate edit privileges, hence the flood of spam users. but it's not a bad idea to have it be required for user creation too, to avoid that spam. The problem is that it'd require more development, and mtux doesn't really have time to do this for the wiki right now.
	:: In the meantime as a quick hack, you can just filter the recent changes list to exclude everything from the User namespace. [https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?namespace=2&invert=1&title=Special%3ARecentChanges try this]. It's not perfect, since it also excludes user page edits... but it's good. :) [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 13:44, 30 April 2013 (GMT)		:: In the meantime as a quick hack, you can just filter the recent changes list to exclude everything from the User namespace. [https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?namespace=2&invert=1&title=Special%3ARecentChanges try this]. It's not perfect, since it also excludes user page edits... but it's good. :) [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 13:44, 30 April 2013 (GMT)

			== Informing new users ==

			It's not very clear right now that people need to visit this page to learn how to contribute. I didn't find out until I was reading through some questions on StackExchange, saw somebody someone ask why he couldn't edit.

			I know there's a line on the front page in font-size 10 saying "Anti-spam protection from BitcoinPayment", but people unfamliar with BitcoinPayment will not notice that. When they don't see an edit button they're likely to assume that you either need to wait for manual approval or that you need to know the right people within the community.

			It's been ages since I tried to write code for MediaWiki, so I don't know if on of the following suggestions is possible:

			* don't hide the edit link, but instead redirect the user to this page for instructions
			* next to the "Show source" link, show "Want to contribute?"

			Or this solution, which doesn't require code:
			* put a text like "If you want to contribute, please read these instructions" in a very prominent place on the landing page.

Nanotube: respond to amount questions

2013-04-30T13:47:14Z

respond to amount questions

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			==Amount reduction==

	As the value of BC rose, I propose to reduce the amount.		As the value of BC rose, I propose to reduce the amount.

	0.01BTC is a day's salary in certain countries. And why are you waiting for 6 confirmations if this measure is really only a spam barrier?		0.01BTC is a day's salary in certain countries. And why are you waiting for 6 confirmations if this measure is really only a spam barrier?
	21:15, 22 April 2013 (GMT)		21:15, 22 April 2013 (GMT)

			:: This was made back when the price of BTC was in the low two digits. :) Yes payment amount could be reduced, but then you'd have to pay 0.0005 BTC fee for sending < 0.01.
			:: Also, 6 conf is required since this uses the MtGox payment processing API, which requires 6 conf. Not really worth it to special-case it. [[User:Nanotube\|Nanotube]] ([[User talk:Nanotube\|talk]]) 13:47, 30 April 2013 (GMT)

	== Require payment for new user creation ==		== Require payment for new user creation ==