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		<title>Taras: Created page with &quot;{{source|These are emails between Dustin Trammel (aka Druid) and Satoshi Nakamoto, released by Druid in November 2013. When Satoshi opened BitcoinTalk in late 2009...&quot;</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{source|These are emails between [[Dustin Trammel]] (aka Druid) and [[Satoshi Nakamoto]], released by Druid in November 2013. When Satoshi opened [[BitcoinTalk]] in late 2009, it made an older forum obsolete; its contents are now lost. These emails are some of the very limited context of Satoshi&amp;#039;s conversations and the [[block chain]] from that year.}}&lt;br /&gt;
==From dtrammell@dustintrammell.com Sun Jan 11 23:14:04 2009==&lt;br /&gt;
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 03:27 +0800, Satoshi Nakamoto wrote:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; Announcing the first release of Bitcoin, a new electronic cash&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; system that uses a peer-to-peer network to prevent double-spending.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; It&amp;#039;s completely decentralized with no server or central authority.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I&amp;#039;m currently reading through your paper.  At the timestamp server&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
section you mention newspapers and usenet, so I thought you might be&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
interested in this if you have not seen it already:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.publictimestamp.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By the way, I&amp;#039;m also currently running the alpha code on one of my&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
workstations.  So far it has two &amp;quot;Generated&amp;quot; messages, however the&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Credit&amp;quot; field for those is 0.00 and the balance hasn&amp;#039;t changed.  Is&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
this due to the age/maturity requirement for a coin to be valid?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cheers,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dustin D. Trammell&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
dtrammell@dustintrammell.com&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.dustintrammell.com&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==From satoshi@vistomail.com Mon Jan 12 18:52:45 2009==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; I&amp;#039;m currently reading through your paper.  At the timestamp server&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; section you mention newspapers and usenet, so I thought you might be&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; interested in this if you have not seen it already:&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; http://www.publictimestamp.org/&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks, I hadn&amp;#039;t seen that yet.  It looks very well presented.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
There was an older one that&amp;#039;s been running for a long time that&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
publishes its hashes to Usenet.  I&amp;#039;m surprised this one isn&amp;#039;t&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
using Usenet, although it is kind of difficult to get access to&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
post to Usenet in an automated way these days.  If they can get a&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
magazine or newspaper to publish their hashes, it would work a lot&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
easier in court for their purposes.  Bitcoin and all timestamp&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
servers share the basic functionality of periodically collecting&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
things into blocks and hashing them into a chain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; By the way, I&amp;#039;m also currently running the alpha code on one of my&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; workstations.  So far it has two &amp;quot;Generated&amp;quot; messages, however the&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Credit&amp;quot; field for those is 0.00 and the balance hasn&amp;#039;t changed.  Is&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;gt; this due to the age/maturity requirement for a coin to be valid?&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Right, the credit field stays 0.00 until it matures, then it&amp;#039;ll be&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
50.00.  Do you think it would be clearer if I left the credit&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
field blank until it matures?  I should put some text in the&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
transaction details (when you double click on it) explaining how&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
it works.  (was it obvious you can doubleclick on a line for&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
details?)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Be sure to upgrade to v0.1.3 if you haven&amp;#039;t already.  This version&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
has really stabilized things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Satoshi&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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