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Talk:BIP 0020

2011-04-19T20:03:09Z

Weavejester: /* Exponents */

See [[Talk:Main_Page#Header_capitalisation]] before continuing ;) [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:02, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Also, consider using SI prefixes. They are standard throughout the world (except America). [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:04, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
* SI/decimal is the inferior competition/enemy of the superior Tonal system. That is, to be avoided. (Chinese is a standard language throughout most of the world too! And whatever the currency of China is-- should we not use bitcoins??) [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:05, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

===== Exponents =====

* Wouldn't it be better if we used the more standard "e" to represent the exponent? e.g. 5e8 = 500,000,000. [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 11:18 PM, 18 April 2011 (GMT)
: An older draft used this, but when implementing, it was quickly noted to conflict with the 'e' hexadecimal digit. --[[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 16:04, 19 April 2011 (GMT)
:: Thanks for the response! I noticed that flaw shortly after I asked the question, but it looks like the wiki lost the update I posted. Out of interest, what's the benefit for allowing both decimal and hexidecimal notation? [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 20:02 PM, 19 April 2011 (GMT)

===== Fallback URI =====
On Android an app can register to open with a normal web URI. This has the advantage of acting as a fallback URI in case there is no app that supports '''bitcoin:'''. For example we could propose '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/<address>[?][amount=<size>][&][label=<label>][&][message=<message>]</nowiki>'''. If the user had a mobile app that supported bitcoin it would have registered '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/</nowiki>''' and be launched. If the user did not have such an app their browser would launch and be directed to '''https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/'''. This page could then inform the user about various apps that support bitcoin transfers and possibly have a link to [[MyBitcoin]] as well. Maybe '''https://bitcoin.org/Send/''' would be more appropriate, though that one might not be updated often enough.
* iPhone support
There is even a way to have this work on iOS devices. Have the web page redirect to the standard '''bitcoin:''' scheme. If an app is present to support this the app will launch, if not the browser the will stay open at the explanation page.
* Upshot
This fallback proposal will make bitcoin QR codes meaningful regardless of if the user has a bitcoin app installed.--[[User:BitMark|BitMark]] 16:05, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

== Use-cases - buy this link ==
On the buy-this link, perhaps we should also incorporate an optional transaction id or something which would be passed along to the bitcoin client. Not really transaction but some sort of arbitrary data, only meaningful to the merchant. Something an online merchant can use to verify which transaction it has received is relevant to a purchase. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:45, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

Talk:BIP 0020

2011-04-19T00:28:05Z

Weavejester: /* Numerical Syntax */

See [[Talk:Main_Page#Header_capitalisation]] before continuing ;) [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:02, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Also, consider using SI prefixes. They are standard throughout the world (except America). [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:04, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
* SI/decimal is the inferior competition/enemy of the superior Tonal system. That is, to be avoided. (Chinese is a standard language throughout most of the world too! And whatever the currency of China is-- should we not use bitcoins??) [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:05, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Can someone fix the name of the page? It's "Scheme", not "Schema". [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:35, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
: maybe even "URI scheme" to be more precise? since there can be many differenct schemes about stuff. :) --[[User:Nanotube|Nanotube]] 05:48, 12 January 2011 (GMT)

===== Numerical Syntax =====

* Wouldn't it be better if we used the more standard "e" to represent the exponent? e.g. 5e8 = 500,000,000. - [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 11:18 PM, 18 April 2011 (GMT)
** Ah, I see exponents are also allowed for hexadecimals, which would preclude the use of "e". What's the reason for allowing both decimal and hexadecimal value strings? Are there particular use-cases where hex is useful? - [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 12:25 AM, 19 April 2011 (GMT)

===== Fallback URI =====
On Android an app can register to open with a normal web URI. This has the advantage of acting as a fallback URI in case there is no app that supports '''bitcoin:'''. For example we could propose '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/<address>[?][amount=<size>][&][label=<label>][&][message=<message>]</nowiki>'''. If the user had a mobile app that supported bitcoin it would have registered '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/</nowiki>''' and be launched. If the user did not have such an app their browser would launch and be directed to '''https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/'''. This page could then inform the user about various apps that support bitcoin transfers and possibly have a link to [[MyBitcoin]] as well. Maybe '''https://bitcoin.org/Send/''' would be more appropriate, though that one might not be updated often enough.
* iPhone support
There is even a way to have this work on iOS devices. Have the web page redirect to the standard '''bitcoin:''' scheme. If an app is present to support this the app will launch, if not the browser the will stay open at the explanation page.
* Upshot
This fallback proposal will make bitcoin QR codes meaningful regardless of if the user has a bitcoin app installed.--[[User:BitMark|BitMark]] 16:05, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

== Use-cases - buy this link ==
On the buy-this link, perhaps we should also incorporate an optional transaction id or something which would be passed along to the bitcoin client. Not really transaction but some sort of arbitrary data, only meaningful to the merchant. Something an online merchant can use to verify which transaction it has received is relevant to a purchase. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:45, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

Talk:BIP 0020

2011-04-18T23:30:41Z

Weavejester: /* Numerical Syntax */

See [[Talk:Main_Page#Header_capitalisation]] before continuing ;) [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:02, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Also, consider using SI prefixes. They are standard throughout the world (except America). [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:04, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
* SI/decimal is the inferior competition/enemy of the superior Tonal system. That is, to be avoided. (Chinese is a standard language throughout most of the world too! And whatever the currency of China is-- should we not use bitcoins??) [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:05, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Can someone fix the name of the page? It's "Scheme", not "Schema". [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:35, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
: maybe even "URI scheme" to be more precise? since there can be many differenct schemes about stuff. :) --[[User:Nanotube|Nanotube]] 05:48, 12 January 2011 (GMT)

===== Numerical Syntax =====

* Wouldn't it be better if we used the more standard "e" to represent the exponent? e.g. 5e8 = 500,000,000. - [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 11:18 PM, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

* On a similar note, it's more common to use a "0x" prefix to denote hexadecimal numbers, e.g. 0xf00. - [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 11:29 PM, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

===== Fallback URI =====
On Android an app can register to open with a normal web URI. This has the advantage of acting as a fallback URI in case there is no app that supports '''bitcoin:'''. For example we could propose '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/<address>[?][amount=<size>][&][label=<label>][&][message=<message>]</nowiki>'''. If the user had a mobile app that supported bitcoin it would have registered '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/</nowiki>''' and be launched. If the user did not have such an app their browser would launch and be directed to '''https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/'''. This page could then inform the user about various apps that support bitcoin transfers and possibly have a link to [[MyBitcoin]] as well. Maybe '''https://bitcoin.org/Send/''' would be more appropriate, though that one might not be updated often enough.
* iPhone support
There is even a way to have this work on iOS devices. Have the web page redirect to the standard '''bitcoin:''' scheme. If an app is present to support this the app will launch, if not the browser the will stay open at the explanation page.
* Upshot
This fallback proposal will make bitcoin QR codes meaningful regardless of if the user has a bitcoin app installed.--[[User:BitMark|BitMark]] 16:05, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

== Use-cases - buy this link ==
On the buy-this link, perhaps we should also incorporate an optional transaction id or something which would be passed along to the bitcoin client. Not really transaction but some sort of arbitrary data, only meaningful to the merchant. Something an online merchant can use to verify which transaction it has received is relevant to a purchase. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:45, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

Talk:BIP 0020

2011-04-18T23:30:15Z

Weavejester: Another syntax suggestion

See [[Talk:Main_Page#Header_capitalisation]] before continuing ;) [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:02, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Also, consider using SI prefixes. They are standard throughout the world (except America). [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:04, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
* SI/decimal is the inferior competition/enemy of the superior Tonal system. That is, to be avoided. (Chinese is a standard language throughout most of the world too! And whatever the currency of China is-- should we not use bitcoins??) [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:05, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Can someone fix the name of the page? It's "Scheme", not "Schema". [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:35, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
: maybe even "URI scheme" to be more precise? since there can be many differenct schemes about stuff. :) --[[User:Nanotube|Nanotube]] 05:48, 12 January 2011 (GMT)

===== Numerical Syntax =====

* Wouldn't it be better if we used the more standard "e" to represent the exponent? e.g. 5e8 = 500,000,000. - [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 11:18 PM, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

* On a similar note, it's more standard to use a "0x" prefix to denote hexadecimal numbers, e.g. 0xf00. - [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 11:29 PM, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

===== Fallback URI =====
On Android an app can register to open with a normal web URI. This has the advantage of acting as a fallback URI in case there is no app that supports '''bitcoin:'''. For example we could propose '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/<address>[?][amount=<size>][&][label=<label>][&][message=<message>]</nowiki>'''. If the user had a mobile app that supported bitcoin it would have registered '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/</nowiki>''' and be launched. If the user did not have such an app their browser would launch and be directed to '''https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/'''. This page could then inform the user about various apps that support bitcoin transfers and possibly have a link to [[MyBitcoin]] as well. Maybe '''https://bitcoin.org/Send/''' would be more appropriate, though that one might not be updated often enough.
* iPhone support
There is even a way to have this work on iOS devices. Have the web page redirect to the standard '''bitcoin:''' scheme. If an app is present to support this the app will launch, if not the browser the will stay open at the explanation page.
* Upshot
This fallback proposal will make bitcoin QR codes meaningful regardless of if the user has a bitcoin app installed.--[[User:BitMark|BitMark]] 16:05, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

== Use-cases - buy this link ==
On the buy-this link, perhaps we should also incorporate an optional transaction id or something which would be passed along to the bitcoin client. Not really transaction but some sort of arbitrary data, only meaningful to the merchant. Something an online merchant can use to verify which transaction it has received is relevant to a purchase. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:45, 18 April 2011 (GMT)

Talk:BIP 0020

2011-04-18T23:19:54Z

Weavejester: Exponent syntax suggestion

See [[Talk:Main_Page#Header_capitalisation]] before continuing ;) [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:02, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Also, consider using SI prefixes. They are standard throughout the world (except America). [[User:Genjix|Genjix]] 08:04, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
* SI/decimal is the inferior competition/enemy of the superior Tonal system. That is, to be avoided. (Chinese is a standard language throughout most of the world too! And whatever the currency of China is-- should we not use bitcoins??) [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:05, 10 January 2011 (GMT)

Can someone fix the name of the page? It's "Scheme", not "Schema". [[User:Luke-jr|Luke-jr]] 15:35, 10 January 2011 (GMT)
: maybe even "URI scheme" to be more precise? since there can be many differenct schemes about stuff. :) --[[User:Nanotube|Nanotube]] 05:48, 12 January 2011 (GMT)

===== Exponents =====

* Wouldn't it be better if we used the more standard "e" to represent the exponent? e.g. 5e8 = 500,000,000. [[User:Weavejester|Weavejester]] 11:18 PM, 19 April 2011 (GMT)

===== Fallback URI =====
On Android an app can register to open with a normal web URI. This has the advantage of acting as a fallback URI in case there is no app that supports '''bitcoin:'''. For example we could propose '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/<address>[?][amount=<size>][&][label=<label>][&][message=<message>]</nowiki>'''. If the user had a mobile app that supported bitcoin it would have registered '''<nowiki>https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/</nowiki>''' and be launched. If the user did not have such an app their browser would launch and be directed to '''https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Send/'''. This page could then inform the user about various apps that support bitcoin transfers and possibly have a link to [[MyBitcoin]] as well. Maybe '''https://bitcoin.org/Send/''' would be more appropriate, though that one might not be updated often enough.
* iPhone support
There is even a way to have this work on iOS devices. Have the web page redirect to the standard '''bitcoin:''' scheme. If an app is present to support this the app will launch, if not the browser the will stay open at the explanation page.
* Upshot
This fallback proposal will make bitcoin QR codes meaningful regardless of if the user has a bitcoin app installed.--[[User:BitMark|BitMark]] 16:05, 2 April 2011 (GMT)

== Use-cases - buy this link ==
On the buy-this link, perhaps we should also incorporate an optional transaction id or something which would be passed along to the bitcoin client. Not really transaction but some sort of arbitrary data, only meaningful to the merchant. Something an online merchant can use to verify which transaction it has received is relevant to a purchase. [[User:Dantman|Dantman]] 20:45, 18 April 2011 (GMT)