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		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=List_of_companies_that_pay_employees_in_Bitcoin&amp;diff=47894</id>
		<title>List of companies that pay employees in Bitcoin</title>
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		<updated>2014-06-04T15:02:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
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A partial list of companies that either give the option to employees to get paid in Bitcoin, or just don&#039;t give a fiat option.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://blockchain.info/ blockchain.info] ([http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/234463 proof])&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://bitshares.org/ BitShares] ([http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/277ddr/blockchaininfo_ceo_we_pay_employees_in_bitcoin/chy7e88 proof])&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://dana.io dana crowdfunding]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://mastercoin.org/ Mastercoin Foundation] ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtCyUJvk_IyNdGpVcnpBN2tOczFmbVRnck5TWjZuRFE&amp;amp;usp=sharing#gid=0 public ledger])&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://sc5.io/ SC5] ([http://sc5.io/blog/2013/03/sc5-pays-salaries-in-bitcoin/ blog post])&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:lists]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
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		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=List_of_companies_that_pay_employees_in_Bitcoin&amp;diff=47893</id>
		<title>List of companies that pay employees in Bitcoin</title>
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		<updated>2014-06-04T15:01:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: added dana.io and re-ordered alphabetically&lt;/p&gt;
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A partial list of companies that either give the option to employees to get paid in Bitcoin, or just don&#039;t give a fiat option.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please add your company here&lt;br /&gt;
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* [https://blockchain.info/ blockchain.info] ([http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/234463 proof])&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://bitshares.org/ BitShares] ([http://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/277ddr/blockchaininfo_ceo_we_pay_employees_in_bitcoin/chy7e88 proof])&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://dana.io dana crowdfunding]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://mastercoin.org/ Mastercoin Foundation] ([https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtCyUJvk_IyNdGpVcnpBN2tOczFmbVRnck5TWjZuRFE&amp;amp;usp=sharing#gid=0 public ledger])&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://sc5.io/ SC5] ([http://sc5.io/blog/2013/03/sc5-pays-salaries-in-bitcoin/ blog post])&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:lists]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Donation-accepting_organizations_and_projects&amp;diff=36106</id>
		<title>Donation-accepting organizations and projects</title>
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		<updated>2013-03-13T15:47:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Here is a list of organizations that accept bitcoin donations.&lt;br /&gt;
Only notable donation-accepting sites should be added here.&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Organization&lt;br /&gt;
! Purpose&lt;br /&gt;
! Donation Page&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://theicarusproject.net/about-us/donate-to-the-icarus-project The Icarus Project]&lt;br /&gt;
|The Icarus Project envisions a new culture and language that resonates with our actual experiences of &#039;mental illness&#039; rather than trying to fit our lives into a conventional framework.&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://theicarusproject.net/about-us/donate-to-the-icarus-project]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Animals-in-Distress-Sanctuary/18914014768 Animals in Distress Sanctuary]&lt;br /&gt;
|Animals in Distress Sanctuary&lt;br /&gt;
| [https://propster.me/tipjar/0cigdnk]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://piratelinux.org/ Pirate Linux]&lt;br /&gt;
|A .deb installer and an Ubuntu based OS that installs, I2p Tor, bitcoin wallet and many other privacy and file sharing apps&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://piratelinux.org/?page_id=271]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|&#039;&#039;&#039;[http://www.archive.org/ Archive.org]&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
|Digital archive of public domain media, original open/free media and historical website backups&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.archive.org/donate]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://thefnf.org/ The Free Network Foundation]&lt;br /&gt;
|To create free internetworks controlled and operated by communities.  Plus help them operate with encryption by using &#039;Freedom Boxes&#039; ect.&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://commons.thefnf.org/index.php/Needs]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://antiwar.com/ Antiwar.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|Devoted to the cause of non-interventionism and anti-imperialism.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://antiwar.com/blog/2012/11/27/an-alternative-way-to-help-antiwar-com/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.stjohnsgoshen.com Church of Saint John the Evangelist]&lt;br /&gt;
|A Church in Goshen, NY&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.stjohnsgoshen.com/bitcoin]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.osiris-sps.org Osiris-sps.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|Software for decentralized portal, managed and shared via P2P between members.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.osiris-sps.org/donations/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bitcoinfunding.com BitcoinFunding.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|[Raise money with bitcoins] Kickstarter style website to raise funds for projects.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://bitcoinfunding.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://ahmia.fi/ Ahmia.fi]&lt;br /&gt;
|AHMIA is working with Tor related projects including running Tor Nodes and the only public Tor Hidden Service search.&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://ahmia.fi/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.AncientBeast.com AncientBeast.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|[Free Open Source] Turn Based Strategy Game Played Online Against Other People. Master your beasts!&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://http://ancientbeast.com/bitcoin]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.anonyops.com/index.php Anonyops.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|News about Anonymous actions and operations&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://anonyops.com/bitcoindonate.php]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.anonnews.org/ Anonnews.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|Open news platform for Anonymous&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://anonnews.org/bitcoin.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://awesome.naquadah.org/ awesome]&lt;br /&gt;
|Window manager for X11&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://iplayernotifier.appspot.com/ BBC iPlayer Notifier]&lt;br /&gt;
|Email and Google Talk notification of new content available on BBC iPlayer&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://iplayernotifier.appspot.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.beatingdebt.org BeatingDebt.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|Teaching debt prevention by placing educational ads, supporting debt prevention groups, and providing online resources&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.beatingdebt.org/donate.php#BitCoinDonation]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.backbox.org/ Backbox]&lt;br /&gt;
|Ubuntu-based GNU/Linux distribution for perform penetration tests and security assessments for ethical hacking&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.backbox.org/services]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.kk-velikelasce.si/ Basketball club KK Velike Lašče]&lt;br /&gt;
|Basketball club KK Velike Lašče from Slovenia playing in the lower national league&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.kk-velikelasce.si/pokrovitelji/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bitcharity.org/ BitCharity]&lt;br /&gt;
|Hub for donating to charities using Bitcoin (currently inactive)&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bitcharity.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.0 Bitcoin 100]&lt;br /&gt;
|Bitcoin 100: A Kickstarter for Charities (1BTC1oo)&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.0]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://bitcoinfoundation.org Bitcoin Foundation]&lt;br /&gt;
|Bitcoin Foundation standardizes, protects and promotes the use of Bitcoin cryptographic money for the benefit of users worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://bitcoinfoundation.org/donate]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bitcoinspot.nl/ Bitcoinspot]&lt;br /&gt;
|Dutch website and forum about Bitcoins, how to acquire and how to use them.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bitcoinspot.nl/nieuws-algemeen/bitcoin-browser-integratie.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bluetile.org Bluetile]&lt;br /&gt;
|Tiling window manager for GNOME&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bluetile.org/#development]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://brmlab.cz/ Brmlab, hackerspace]&lt;br /&gt;
|The first hackerspace in the Czech Republic&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://brmlab.cz/project/bitcoin]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bund-berlin.de/ BUND Berlin e.V.]&lt;br /&gt;
|environmental NGO, Berlin branch of BUND / Friends of the Earth, Germany&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bund-berlin.de/bund_berlinde/spenden/bitcoin_spenden/bitcoin_english.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://c4ss.org/ Center for a Stateless Society]&lt;br /&gt;
|Builds public awareness of, and support for, market anarchism&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://c4ss.org/support-the-center]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.cheat-sheets.org/ Cheat-Sheets.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|Cheat/round-up/reference cards/guides/sheets for programming languages and software&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.cheat-sheets.org/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.chambaproject.in/ Chamba Project]&lt;br /&gt;
|An effort to create a Swathanthra (Free/Libre/Open/Mukt) Animation Movie by pooling in contributions from people around the world and funding artists directly. &lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.chambaproject.in/contribute/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Bitcoin.shtml Chebucto Community Net]&lt;br /&gt;
|Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada-based registered charitable society providing non-profit access to the tools of communication. Operating since 1994.&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Bitcoin.shtml]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bitcoinsreview.com Consumer - Merchant Trust Project]&lt;br /&gt;
|An initiative to increase trust between Consumer and Bitcoin Merchants. Proceedspay for hosting, ads, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bitcoinsreview.com/donate/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://convergence.io Convergence]&lt;br /&gt;
|Agile, distributed, and secure strategy for replacing certificate authorities.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://convergence.io/involved.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://ccbib.org Creative Commons Bibliothek]&lt;br /&gt;
|Creative Commons and Public Domain library. Includes book source code for easy reprinting with custom layout. Local groups produce paper versions for lending.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://ccbib.org/donate/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.cryto.net/ Cryto Coding Collective]&lt;br /&gt;
|Host for IRC and web for free/libre software and cultural projects&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.cryto.net/donate/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.DecryptedMatrix.com/ Decrypted Matrix ]&lt;br /&gt;
|Blog on science, society, nature, politics etc.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.DecryptedMatrix.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.degenernet.com/ Degenernet Radio]&lt;br /&gt;
|Online radio station dedicated independent music from all genres&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.degenernet.com/donate.php]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://dia-installer.de/ dia-installer.de]&lt;br /&gt;
|Dia, popular open source diagramming software for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://dia-installer.de/support/donations.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://diasporaproject.org/ DIASPORA* Project]&lt;br /&gt;
|A distributed privacy aware &amp;quot;social network&amp;quot; which is run non-profit&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://propster.me/tipjar/0cfj4eg]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.digitalprecursor.org/ Digital Precursor]&lt;br /&gt;
|Website and Forum dedicated to scientific learning (particularly energetics)&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.digitalprecursor.org/content.php/93-Anonymous-Donations-Now-Available]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.dosbox.com/ DOSBox]&lt;br /&gt;
|An x86 emulator with DOS&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.dosbox.com/crew.php]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.downsizedc.org/link?uri=/&amp;amp;src=btc-wiki DownsizeDC.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|USA federal government downsizing movement&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://secure.downsizedc.org/contribute/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.duplicati.com/ Duplicati]&lt;br /&gt;
|Free, open source backup client that securely stores encrypted, incremental, compressed backups on cloud storage services and remote file servers. It works with Amazon S3, Windows Live SkyDrive, Google Drive (Google Docs), Rackspace Cloud Files or WebDAV, SSH, FTP (and many more).&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.duplicati.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.dyne.org Dyne.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|Since the year 2000 producing free and open source software for media activism: makers of the 100% Free Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux distribution and more software to record, edit and stream audio and video materials on-line, encrypt private communications and recycle existing hardware.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.dyne.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://spices.org.my/ Early Intervention Program at SPICES]&lt;br /&gt;
|Non-profit organization providing services to children with learning disabilities since 1997&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://spices.org.my/be-involved/donations/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Main_Page Encyclopedia Dramatica]&lt;br /&gt;
|4chan&#039;s Wikipedia &lt;br /&gt;
|[http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/donate.php]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://www.erowid.org/ Erowid]&lt;br /&gt;
|Portal on psychoactive plants and chemicals, meditation, lucid etc.&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://www.erowid.org/donations/donations_bitcoin.php]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://eudemocracia.org/english.html Eudemocracia] NGO&lt;br /&gt;
|Dedicated to the creation of a modern form of government that combines direct democracy and internet.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://wiki.eudemocracia.org/en/donaciones]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.expanton.com Expanton]&lt;br /&gt;
|Occupy Wall Street Support&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.expanton.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.ezyorg.com/ Ezyorg.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|Organizing &amp;amp; Planning Tool&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://ezyorg.com/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.Brikcius.com/ Festival Brikcius]&lt;br /&gt;
|Support &amp;quot;Festival Brikcius&amp;quot; - the chamber music concert series at the Stone Bell House in Prague.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.Brikcius.com/Contact.uk.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.foo.be/forban/ Forban]&lt;br /&gt;
|Filesharing protocol for local area networks&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.foo.be/forban/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://freedomboxfoundation.org FreedomBox Foundation]&lt;br /&gt;
|Non-profit turning small plug computers into personal servers that guard your privacy, anonymity and security.&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://freedomboxfoundation.org/donate]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://FreedomsPhoenix.com/ FreedomsPhoenix]&lt;br /&gt;
|Reigniting the flames of freedom, Phoenix based daily radio show, news aggregator and Digital eZine.&lt;br /&gt;
| [https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Secure/Contributions.htm?EdNo=001]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://freenetproject.org/ Freenet Project]&lt;br /&gt;
|The Free Network&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://freenetproject.org/donate.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.fsf.org Free Software Foundation]&lt;br /&gt;
|Worldwide advocate for software freedom and host organization for the GNU Project.&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://my.fsf.org/donate/other]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.freetalklive.com/ Free Talk Live]&lt;br /&gt;
|Help spread the message of liberty by donating to a liberty leaning nationally syndicated radio show!&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.freetalklive.com/bitcoin]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://freedomainradio.com/ Freedomain Radio]&lt;br /&gt;
|Online philosophical conversation about freedom, religion, the state, and the family&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://board.freedomainradio.com/forums/t/30241.aspx]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.freehal.org/ FreeHAL]&lt;br /&gt;
|a self-learning artificial intelligence available as free software&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.freehal.net/funds/?p=do&amp;amp;l=en]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.FreezingMoon.org FreezingMoon.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|Free Open Source Game Development Organization&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://http://FreezingMoon.org/bitcoin]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://freifunk-rheinland.net Freifunk Rheinland e.V.]&lt;br /&gt;
| Organization fighting legislation against unrestricted WiFi access in Germany&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://freifunk-rheinland.org/operation-storerhaftung.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.gentlelan.de/ GentleLAN]&lt;br /&gt;
|Since many years free private LANs in Bremen / Germany &lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.gentlelan.de/?page_id=193]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.girlsgonebitcoin.info GirlsGoneBitcoin]&lt;br /&gt;
|Girls gone wild with bitcoin accepting donations!&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.girlsgonebitcoin.info/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://http://www.groupbstrepinternational.org/ Group B Strep International]&lt;br /&gt;
|Promoting GBS Awareness Worldwide&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.groupbstrepinternational.org/donate.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://gzzt.org/ GZZT.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|Popular Useful Links Reference Site&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://gzzt.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.reddit.com/r/hackbloc HackBloc on Reddit]&lt;br /&gt;
|Hacktivism, Crypto-anarchy, Darknets.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.reddit.com/r/hackbloc]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://hacktolive.org hacktolive]&lt;br /&gt;
|Development of Linux-based distro &amp;quot;Super OS&amp;quot; and other open-source software&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://hacktolive.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.heavensentgaming.com Heaven Sent Gaming]&lt;br /&gt;
|Heaven Sent Gaming is a new media entertainment group founded by Mario Lucero and Isabel Ruiz, in 2006, as a game development team.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://heavensentgaming.com/support-and-donations/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.helplinux.ru Help Linux]&lt;br /&gt;
|Russian language Linux support&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://helplinux.ourproject.org/wiki/about:start]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://thejuicemedia.com Juice Rap News]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|[http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/why-the-p2p-foundation-is-paying-its-salaries-in-bitcoin/2012/03/28]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://bitcoinintro.com/project-hidden-treasure/ Project Hidden Treasure]&lt;br /&gt;
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|[http://bitcoinintro.com/project-hidden-treasure/]&lt;br /&gt;
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|[http://prometheusfusionperfection.com/ Prometheus Fusion Perfection]&lt;br /&gt;
|Open source nuclear fusion research&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://protestbarrick.net/ Protest Barrick]&lt;br /&gt;
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|[http://queeky.com/ Queeky]&lt;br /&gt;
|an online drawing community with special drawing tools and creative users from all around the world&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.queeky.com/content/support-queeky-and-donate]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.reactos.org/ ReactOS]&lt;br /&gt;
|Free open source Windows-compatible operating system&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.reactos.org/en/foundation_donate.html]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.recycles.org/ Recycles.Org]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://ripplepay.com/ Ripple]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [https://riseup.net/ Riseup]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://tahoe-lafs.org/ Tahoe-LAFS]&lt;br /&gt;
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|Freeware MAC Address Changer&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://the-alternative.co.uk/support-us/ The-alternative.co.uk]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://ThePythonGameBook.com ThePythonGameBook]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://Tn3t.com/ TN3T LLC TOR Project]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://www.torservers.net/ Torservers.net]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.wikispeed.com WIKISPEED]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://zerostate.net Zero State]&lt;br /&gt;
|Grassroots technoprogressive community implementing practical solutions to advance the human condition.&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://f-droid.org/ F–Droid]&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://wordswithmeaning.org/ WordswithMeaning!]&lt;br /&gt;
|An &amp;quot;alternative&amp;quot; affairs online editorial focusing on non-conservative views and aiming criticism towards copyright and the modern media.&lt;br /&gt;
|[https://wordswithmeaning.org/page/support-wordmean]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.fairewinds.com Fairewinds Energy Education]&lt;br /&gt;
| Educates the public about nuclear power and other energy issues.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.fairewinds.com/donations]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
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| Watch free documentaries and lectures online&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.dcdclinic.org Douglas County Dental Clinic]&lt;br /&gt;
|Non-profit community dental clinic serving the residents of Douglas County, KS.&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.dcdclinic.org]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.piratenpartei.at/ Piratenpartei Österreich]&lt;br /&gt;
|Pirate Party of Austria&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://wiki.piratenpartei.at/wiki/Kategorie:Spenden]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.koinoniaaxion.gr/ KoinoniaAxion (Κοινωνία Αξιών)]&lt;br /&gt;
|Political Party in Greece&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.koinoniaaxion.gr/index.php/2013-01-05-11-13-03/bitcoin]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Spenden]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13899</id>
		<title>P2Pool</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13899"/>
		<updated>2011-07-30T15:15:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: bunch of updates - move from otc wiki&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;P2Pool is a decentralized pool that works by creating a P2P network of miner nodes. These nodes work on a chain of shares similar to Bitcoin&#039;s blockchain. Each node works on a block that includes payouts to the previous shares&#039; owners and the node itself. There is no central point of failure, making it DoS resistant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool GitHub project page] | [https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Bitcoin Forum thread]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Join #p2pool channel on freenode to keep up with the latest talk or for help to get started.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Donation address: &#039;&#039;1JvZX38TZu6Jqo7Ce9T7j21yJE11t7m4Z2&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Overview =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool shares form a &amp;quot;sharechain&amp;quot; with each share referencing the previous share&#039;s hash. Each share contains a standard Bitcoin block header, some P2Pool-specific data that is used to compute the generation transaction (total subsidy, payout script of this share, a nonce, the previous share&#039;s hash, and the current target for shares), and a merkle branch linking that generation transaction to the block header&#039;s merkle hash.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The chain continuously regulates its target to keep generation around one share every five seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike Bitcoin, nodes do not know the entire chain - instead they only hold the last 17280 shares (the last day&#039;s worth). In order to prevent an attacker from working on a chain in secret and then releasing it, overriding the existing chain, chains are judged by how much work they have since a point in the past. To ascertain that the work has been done since that point, nodes look at the Bitcoin blocks the shares reference, establishing a provable timestamp. (If a share points to a block, it was definitely made after that block was made.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Payout logic ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each share contains a generation transaction that pays out to the previous n shares, where n is the number of shares whose total work is equal to 3 times the average work required to solve a block, or 17280, whichever is smaller. Payouts are weighted based on the amount of work each share took to solve - proportional to the p2pool difficulty at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The block reward (currently 50BTC) and the transaction fees are combined and apportioned according to these rules:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A subsidy of 0.5% is sent to the node that solved the block in order to discourage not sharing solutions that qualify as a block. (An evil miner could withhold the block, thereby preventing anybody from getting paid. He can NOT redirect the payout to himself.) In addition, a subsidy of 0.5% is kept as a fee. The remaining 99% is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the event that a share qualifies as a block, this generation transaction is exposed to the Bitcoin network and takes effect, transferring each node its payout.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Joining the pool =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Follow these steps to join the pool:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Run bitcoin with the RPC interface enabled: put rpcuser=USER, rpcpassword=PASS, and server=1 in bitcoin.conf&lt;br /&gt;
* Download p2pool:&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: http://u.forre.st/u/udvegtzv/p2pool_win32_9037c07.zip&lt;br /&gt;
** git: git clone git://github.com/forrestv/p2pool.git&lt;br /&gt;
* Run p2pool: (See below for additional options.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: run_p2pool.exe USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
** git: python run_p2pool.py USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
* Run a miner daemon with long polling connecting to 127.0.0.1 (or the IP of the host running p2pool if you&#039;re mining remotely) on port 9332 with any username and password&lt;br /&gt;
** poclbm.exe http://a:b@127.0.0.1:9332&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miners ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is all for the latest p2pool version, it includes several new workarounds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Perfect ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;cgminer&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the latest p2pool) works perfectly. A workaround was needed to get long polling to work, but it has no fixed long polling delay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;ufasoft&#039;&#039;&#039;, as far as I can tell by looking at the source but not actually running it (I couldn&#039;t get it to compile) should work perfectly too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Need patch to reduce stales ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;DiabloMiner&#039;&#039;&#039; has a bug where it waits half a second after receiving a long polling response. There is a 20% chance that a p2pool share will be generated in that window, resulting in all hashing until the next getwork being useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have created a fork of DiabloMiner on GitHub that fixes this: https://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner Make sure to get the &#039;&#039;fast_long_polling&#039;&#039; branch!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd DiabloMiner&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Built with JAR and Windows binary: http://u.forre.st/u/xsvenrwa/DiabloMiner_2e73cc.zip&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Poclbm&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug, but it waits a full second.&lt;br /&gt;
GitHub fork: https://github.com/forrestv/poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
Pull request: https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/pull/41&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/poclbm.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
No binary as of yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Phoenix&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug (waiting a full second).&lt;br /&gt;
Patch against SVN r112: http://im.forre.st/pb/74595264.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Bad ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;puddinpop&#039;s RPC Miners&#039;&#039;&#039; don&#039;t have long polling and so will not work at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Option Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
usage: run_p2pool.py [-h] [--version] [--testnet] [--debug] [-a ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--p2pool-port PORT] [-n ADDR[:PORT]] [-l] [-w PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool (version a07e25c18d122565793536945c8cc65049eb1cce)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
optional arguments:&lt;br /&gt;
  -h, --help            show this help message and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --version             show program&#039;s version number and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --testnet             use the testnet&lt;br /&gt;
  --debug               debugging mode&lt;br /&gt;
  -a ADDRESS, --address ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        generate to this address (defaults to requesting one&lt;br /&gt;
                        from bitcoind)&lt;br /&gt;
  -l, --low-bandwidth   trade lower bandwidth usage for higher latency&lt;br /&gt;
                        (reduced efficiency)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --p2pool-port PORT    use TCP port PORT to listen for connections (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        9333 normally, 19333 for testnet) (forward this port&lt;br /&gt;
                        from your router!)&lt;br /&gt;
  -n ADDR[:PORT], --p2pool-node ADDR[:PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to existing p2pool node at ADDR listening on&lt;br /&gt;
                        TCP port PORT (defaults to 9333 normally, 19333 for&lt;br /&gt;
                        testnet), in addition to builtin addresses&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
worker interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  -w PORT, --worker-port PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        listen on PORT for RPC connections from miners asking&lt;br /&gt;
                        for work and providing responses (default: 9332)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bitcoind interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this address (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        127.0.0.1)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the RPC&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to get the current highest block via&lt;br /&gt;
                        getwork (default: 8332)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the p2p&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to submit blocks and get the pubkey&lt;br /&gt;
                        to generate to via an IP transaction (default: 8333&lt;br /&gt;
                        normally. 18333 for testnet)&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface username&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface password&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Protocol description =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool&#039;s protocol mirrors Bitcoin&#039;s P2P protocol in many ways. It uses the same framing (prefix, command, length, checksum, payload) and similar commands:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to establish a connection - contains (&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;services&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_to&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_from&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;nonce&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;sub_version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;best_share_hash&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;setmode&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to update the &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; sent in the &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; message - contains (&#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;ping&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to keep connection alive - contains ()&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrme&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send out an addr for the sending node - contains (&#039;&#039;port&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast list of nodes&#039; addresses - contains (&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getaddrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send &#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039; addrs - contains (&#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getshares&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send the shares referenced by &#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039; of their parents, stopping at any share referenced by &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039; - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share0s&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the hashes of shares - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that do not qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; is 0 for low-bandwidth mode, which sends the hash of a share first before sending the entire share, or 1 for low-latency (default) mode, which forwards the entire (~170 byte) share always. The two nodes on either side of a connection use the minimum of their two preferences for that connection.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Reward distribution=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Proportional, 0.5% fee. Transaction fees shared.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=See Also=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Comparison of mining pools]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Pooled Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=External Links=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 P2Pool forum]&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool GitHub project page]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=References=&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Pool Operators]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13898</id>
		<title>P2Pool</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13898"/>
		<updated>2011-07-30T15:12:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;P2Pool is a decentralized pool that works by creating a P2P network of miner nodes. These nodes work on a chain of shares similar to Bitcoin&#039;s blockchain. Each node works on a block that includes payouts to the previous shares&#039; owners and the node itself. There is no central point of failure, making it DoS resistant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool GitHub project page] | [https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Bitcoin Forum thread]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Join #p2pool channel on freenode to keep up with the latest talk or for help to get started.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Donation address: &#039;&#039;1JvZX38TZu6Jqo7Ce9T7j21yJE11t7m4Z2&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Overview =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool shares form a &amp;quot;sharechain&amp;quot; with each share referencing the previous share&#039;s hash. Each share contains a standard Bitcoin block header, some P2Pool-specific data that is used to compute the generation transaction (total subsidy, payout script of this share, a nonce, the previous share&#039;s hash, and the current target for shares), and a merkle branch linking that generation transaction to the block header&#039;s merkle hash.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The chain continuously regulates its target to keep generation around one share every five seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike Bitcoin, nodes do not know the entire chain - instead they only hold the last 17280 shares (the last day&#039;s worth). In order to prevent an attacker from working on a chain in secret and then releasing it, overriding the existing chain, chains are judged by how much work they have since a point in the past. To ascertain that the work has been done since that point, nodes look at the Bitcoin blocks the shares reference, establishing a provable timestamp. (If a share points to a block, it was definitely made after that block was made.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Payout logic ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each share contains a generation transaction that pays out to the previous n shares, where n is the number of shares whose total work is equal to 3 times the average work required to solve a block, or 17280, whichever is smaller. Payouts are weighted based on the amount of work each share took to solve - proportional to the p2pool difficulty at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The block reward (currently 50BTC) and the transaction fees are combined and apportioned according to these rules:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A subsidy of 0.5% is sent to the node that solved the block in order to discourage not sharing solutions that qualify as a block. (An evil miner could withhold the block, thereby preventing anybody from getting paid. He can NOT redirect the payout to himself.) In addition, a subsidy of 0.5% is kept as a fee. The remaining 99% is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the event that a share qualifies as a block, this generation transaction is exposed to the Bitcoin network and takes effect, transferring each node its payout.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Joining the pool =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Follow these steps to join the pool:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Run bitcoin with the RPC interface enabled: put rpcuser=USER, rpcpassword=PASS, and server=1 in bitcoin.conf&lt;br /&gt;
* Download p2pool:&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: http://u.forre.st/u/udvegtzv/p2pool_win32_9037c07.zip&lt;br /&gt;
** git: git clone git://github.com/forrestv/p2pool.git&lt;br /&gt;
* Run p2pool: (See below for additional options.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: run_p2pool.exe USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
** git: python run_p2pool.py USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
* Run a miner daemon with long polling connecting to 127.0.0.1 (or the IP of the host running p2pool if you&#039;re mining remotely) on port 9332 with any username and password&lt;br /&gt;
** poclbm.exe http://a:b@127.0.0.1:9332&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miners ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is all for the latest p2pool version, it includes several new workarounds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Perfect ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;cgminer&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the latest p2pool) works perfectly. A workaround was needed to get long polling to work, but it has no fixed long polling delay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;ufasoft&#039;&#039;&#039;, as far as I can tell by looking at the source but not actually running it (I couldn&#039;t get it to compile) should work perfectly too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Need patch to reduce stales ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;DiabloMiner&#039;&#039;&#039; has a bug where it waits half a second after receiving a long polling response. There is a 20% chance that a p2pool share will be generated in that window, resulting in all hashing until the next getwork being useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have created a fork of DiabloMiner on GitHub that fixes this: https://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner Make sure to get the &#039;&#039;fast_long_polling&#039;&#039; branch!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd DiabloMiner&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Built with JAR and Windows binary: http://u.forre.st/u/xsvenrwa/DiabloMiner_2e73cc.zip&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Poclbm&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug, but it waits a full second.&lt;br /&gt;
GitHub fork: https://github.com/forrestv/poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
Pull request: https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/pull/41&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/poclbm.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
No binary as of yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Phoenix&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug (waiting a full second).&lt;br /&gt;
Patch against SVN r112: http://im.forre.st/pb/74595264.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Bad ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;puddinpop&#039;s RPC Miners&#039;&#039;&#039; don&#039;t have long polling and so will not work at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Option Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
usage: run_p2pool.py [-h] [--version] [--testnet] [--debug] [-a ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--p2pool-port PORT] [-n ADDR[:PORT]] [-l] [-w PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool (version a07e25c18d122565793536945c8cc65049eb1cce)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
optional arguments:&lt;br /&gt;
  -h, --help            show this help message and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --version             show program&#039;s version number and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --testnet             use the testnet&lt;br /&gt;
  --debug               debugging mode&lt;br /&gt;
  -a ADDRESS, --address ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        generate to this address (defaults to requesting one&lt;br /&gt;
                        from bitcoind)&lt;br /&gt;
  -l, --low-bandwidth   trade lower bandwidth usage for higher latency&lt;br /&gt;
                        (reduced efficiency)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --p2pool-port PORT    use TCP port PORT to listen for connections (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        9333 normally, 19333 for testnet) (forward this port&lt;br /&gt;
                        from your router!)&lt;br /&gt;
  -n ADDR[:PORT], --p2pool-node ADDR[:PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to existing p2pool node at ADDR listening on&lt;br /&gt;
                        TCP port PORT (defaults to 9333 normally, 19333 for&lt;br /&gt;
                        testnet), in addition to builtin addresses&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
worker interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  -w PORT, --worker-port PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        listen on PORT for RPC connections from miners asking&lt;br /&gt;
                        for work and providing responses (default: 9332)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bitcoind interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this address (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        127.0.0.1)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the RPC&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to get the current highest block via&lt;br /&gt;
                        getwork (default: 8332)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the p2p&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to submit blocks and get the pubkey&lt;br /&gt;
                        to generate to via an IP transaction (default: 8333&lt;br /&gt;
                        normally. 18333 for testnet)&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface username&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface password&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Protocol description =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool&#039;s protocol mirrors Bitcoin&#039;s P2P protocol in many ways. It uses the same framing (prefix, command, length, checksum, payload) and similar commands:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to establish a connection - contains (&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;services&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_to&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_from&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;nonce&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;sub_version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;best_share_hash&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;setmode&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to update the &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; sent in the &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; message - contains (&#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;ping&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to keep connection alive - contains ()&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrme&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send out an addr for the sending node - contains (&#039;&#039;port&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast list of nodes&#039; addresses - contains (&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getaddrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send &#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039; addrs - contains (&#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getshares&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send the shares referenced by &#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039; of their parents, stopping at any share referenced by &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039; - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share0s&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the hashes of shares - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that do not qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; is 0 for low-bandwidth mode, which sends the hash of a share first before sending the entire share, or 1 for low-latency (default) mode, which forwards the entire (~170 byte) share always. The two nodes on either side of a connection use the minimum of their two preferences for that connection.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Reward distribution=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Proportional, 0.5% fee. Transaction fees shared.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=See Also=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Comparison of mining pools]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Pooled Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=External Links=&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313 P2Pool forum]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=References=&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Pool Operators]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_mining_pools&amp;diff=13892</id>
		<title>Comparison of mining pools</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-30T14:56:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Reward types &amp;amp; explanation:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;PPS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Pay Per Share. Each submitted share is worth certain amount of BTC. Since finding a block requires &amp;lt;current difficulty&amp;gt; shares &#039;&#039;on average&#039;&#039;, a PPS method with 0% fee would be 50 BTC divided by &amp;lt;current difficulty&amp;gt;. It is risky for pool operators, hence the fee is highest.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;SMPPS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Shared Maximum Pay Per Share. Like Pay Per Share, but never pays more than the pool earns. [http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Shared_Maximum_PPS]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;ESMPPS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Equalized Shared Maximum Pay Per Share. Like SMPPS, but equalizes payments fairly among all those who are owed. [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12181.msg378851#msg378851]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Prop.&#039;&#039;&#039; - Proportional. When block is found, the reward is distributed among all workers proportionally to how much shares each of them has found.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;PPLNS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Pay Per Last N Shares. Similar to proportional, but instead of looking at the number of shares in the round, instead looks at the last N shares, regardless of round boundaries.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Score&#039;&#039;&#039; - Score based system: a proportional reward, but weighed by time submitted. Each submitted share is worth more in the function of time &#039;&#039;t&#039;&#039; since start of current round. For each share score is updated by: score += exp(t/C). This makes later shares worth much more than earlier shares, thus the miner&#039;s score quickly diminishes when they stop mining on the pool. Rewards are calculated proportionally to scores (and not to shares). (at slush&#039;s pool C=300 seconds, and every hour scores are normalized)&lt;br /&gt;
[http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/samples/800MH/ Visual examples of the various payout methods]&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Name !! Location !! Hashrate (GHash/sec)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;hashrate&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hashrate is given in gigahash/second.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;hashrate2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Note that pool hashrate is largely irrelevant but can be seen as a popularity measurement. Note however that it is a theoretical security issue if one pool gains above 50% of the total computational power of the network, thus consider joining a pool based on other metrics.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; !! Reward Type !! Transaction fees !! Fee PPS !! Fee Prop / Score !! Audits&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditing&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Auditing can be accomplished by third-parties if the pool publishes proofs-of-work for every share.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; !! Protocol !! Launched !! Forum Thread !! Homepage&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[21bitcoin|21bitcoin]] || CN, HK || 2 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-20 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20056.0] || [http://21bitcoin.com/pool/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[ArsBitcoin|ArsBitcoin]] || USA || 330 || SMPPS || kept by pool || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ||  || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-15 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18567.0 Link] || [https://arsbitcoin.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[bestbitcoinminingpool|bestbitcoinminingpool]] || Australia || 3 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-01 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=25001.0] || [http://www.bestbitcoinminingpool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Betcoin.co_Pool|Betcoin.co Pool]] || USA || 10 || PPLNS || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-07 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26439.0 Link] || [http://pool.betcoin.co/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitclockers|BitClockers]] || USA, EU || 80 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 2% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10127.0 Link] || [http://bitclockers.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoin_Pool|Bitcoin Mining Pool]] || USA || 272 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || ? || RPC (+LP) || Unknown || [http://bitcoinpool.com/forum/ Link] || [http://www.bitcoinpool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoin_Pooled_Mining|Bitcoin Pooled Mining (Slush)]] || London || 1491 || Score || kept by pool || || 2% || ? || RPC || 2010-11-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=1976.0 Link] || [http://mining.bitcoin.cz/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoinitalia]] || Italy|| 4.5 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-12 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26634.0 Link] || [http://www.btcfarm.us/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoins.lc]] || EU || 624 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10121.0 Link] || [http://www.bitcoins.lc/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BitLotto Pool]] || Los Angeles || 1 || Prop || kept by pool || || || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=13794.0 Link] || [http://www.bitlottopool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BitMinter]] || USA || 10 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || Yes&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditnote2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Access to proofs-of-work is available on request.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-18 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=27062.0 Link] || [https://bitminter.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitp.it]] || USA || 100 || ESMPPS || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12181.0 Link] || [https://pool.bitp.it Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BTC Guild]] || USA, EU || 2800 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donationsf&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible to unlock features&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;|| ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-09 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7760.0 Link] || [http://www.btcguild.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BTCMine]] || UK || 480 || Score || kept by pool || || 2% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-03-11 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=4251.0 Link] || [http://www.btcmine.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[btcmp.com]] || Germany || 27 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-28 ||  || [http://www.btcmp.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Btcserv.net|BTCSERV.net]] || Germany || 3 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-09 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=27101.0 Link] || [http://btcserv.net/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Btcworld.de]] || Germany || 28 || Prop || kept by pool || || ? || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-18 ||  || [http://btcworld.de/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://chwpool.kr105.com/ CHWpool] || Chile || 10 || Prop || kept by pool || || 1% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-30 ||  || [http://chwpool.kr105.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Coinotron]] || Poland || 2 || Score || kept by pool ||  || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-06 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26727.0 Link] || [http://www.coinotron.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Continuum]] || Canada || 16 || Score || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-17 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=8660.0 Link] || [http://www.continuumpool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[DeepBit]] || Germany || 4180 || PPS / Prop. || kept by pool || 10% || 3% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-02-26 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=3889.0 Link] || [http://deepbit.net/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Eclipse Mining Consortium]] || USA / Europe / AU / Asia || 50 || Prop / Score || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-14 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=16385.0 Link] || [https://eclipsemc.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Eligius]] || Germany || 510 || SMPPS || kept by pool || 0.000001%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || || Yes&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditnote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Access to Eligius proofs-of-work is available on request.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || RPC (+LP) || 2011-04-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=6667.0 Link] || [http://eligius.st Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mineco.in]] || UK || 170 || PPLNS || Shared || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-15 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17310.0 Link] || [https://mineco.in/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mining Team Reddit (MtRed)]] || USA, EU || 212 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-25 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=15929.0 1] [http://reddit.com/r/mtred/ 2] || [http://www.mtred.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[NoFeeMining]] || USA || 48 || Prop || Shared || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-17 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18301.0 Link] || [http://www.nofeemining.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Ozco.in]] || AUS || 85 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=14085.0/ Link] || [http://www.ozco.in Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[P2Pool]] || n/a (P2P) || 5 || Prop || shared || || 0.5% || ? || RPC (+LP)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;p2pool&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Against a local p2pool node&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || 2011-06-17 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Link] || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[PolMine]] || Poland|| 150 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-13 || [http://forum.polmine.pl/ Link] || [https://polmine.pl/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[PoolMunity]] || France|| 45 || Score || kept by pool || || 1.5% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-24 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=22036.0 Link] || [https://poolmunity.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[rfcpool]] || UK || 29 || Prop &amp;amp; PPS || kept by pool || 7% || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-05 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26164.0/ Link] || [https://www.rfcpool.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Simplecoin]] || Unknown || 1.4 || Prop|| kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;simplecoin&amp;quot;&amp;gt;While in testing.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-02 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=11186.0 Link] || [http://simplecoin.us/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Swepool]] || Sweden || 13 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-14 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=8288.0 Link] || [http://swepool.net/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Triplemining]] || Europe || 45 || Prop || kept by pool || || 1% || Yes&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditnote2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Access to proofs-of-work is available on request.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-28 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23664.0 Link] || [http://tinyurl.com/triplemining Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[UnitedMiners]] || US || 30 || PPLNS || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-28 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23664.0 Link] || [http://tinyurl.com/triplemining Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[x8s]] || Germany || 95 || Prop || kept by pool || || 1% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=13275 Link] || [http://btc.x8s.de/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[ZA Bitcoin]] || South Africa|| 0.4 || Score || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-14 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17830.0 Link] || [http://www.zabitcoin.co.za/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pooled mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bcx.me/ Bitcoin Mining Pool Tracker]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Mining]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_mining_pools&amp;diff=13891</id>
		<title>Comparison of mining pools</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-30T14:55:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Reward types &amp;amp; explanation:&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;PPS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Pay Per Share. Each submitted share is worth certain amount of BTC. Since finding a block requires &amp;lt;current difficulty&amp;gt; shares &#039;&#039;on average&#039;&#039;, a PPS method with 0% fee would be 50 BTC divided by &amp;lt;current difficulty&amp;gt;. It is risky for pool operators, hence the fee is highest.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;SMPPS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Shared Maximum Pay Per Share. Like Pay Per Share, but never pays more than the pool earns. [http://eligius.st/wiki/index.php/Shared_Maximum_PPS]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;ESMPPS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Equalized Shared Maximum Pay Per Share. Like SMPPS, but equalizes payments fairly among all those who are owed. [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12181.msg378851#msg378851]&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Prop.&#039;&#039;&#039; - Proportional. When block is found, the reward is distributed among all workers proportionally to how much shares each of them has found.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;PPLNS&#039;&#039;&#039; - Pay Per Last N Shares. Similar to proportional, but instead of looking at the number of shares in the round, instead looks at the last N shares, regardless of round boundaries.&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;Score&#039;&#039;&#039; - Score based system: a proportional reward, but weighed by time submitted. Each submitted share is worth more in the function of time &#039;&#039;t&#039;&#039; since start of current round. For each share score is updated by: score += exp(t/C). This makes later shares worth much more than earlier shares, thus the miner&#039;s score quickly diminishes when they stop mining on the pool. Rewards are calculated proportionally to scores (and not to shares). (at slush&#039;s pool C=300 seconds, and every hour scores are normalized)&lt;br /&gt;
[http://eligius.st/~luke-jr/samples/800MH/ Visual examples of the various payout methods]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Name !! Location !! Hashrate (GHash/sec)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;hashrate&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hashrate is given in gigahash/second.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;hashrate2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Note that pool hashrate is largely irrelevant but can be seen as a popularity measurement. Note however that it is a theoretical security issue if one pool gains above 50% of the total computational power of the network, thus consider joining a pool based on other metrics.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; !! Reward Type !! Transaction fees !! Fee PPS !! Fee Prop / Score !! Audits&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditing&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Auditing can be accomplished by third-parties if the pool publishes proofs-of-work for every share.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; !! Protocol !! Launched !! Forum Thread !! Homepage&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[21bitcoin|21bitcoin]] || CN, HK || 2 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-20 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=20056.0] || [http://21bitcoin.com/pool/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[ArsBitcoin|ArsBitcoin]] || USA || 330 || SMPPS || kept by pool || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ||  || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-15 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18567.0 Link] || [https://arsbitcoin.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[bestbitcoinminingpool|bestbitcoinminingpool]] || Australia || 3 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-01 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=25001.0] || [http://www.bestbitcoinminingpool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Betcoin.co_Pool|Betcoin.co Pool]] || USA || 10 || PPLNS || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-07 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26439.0 Link] || [http://pool.betcoin.co/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitclockers|BitClockers]] || USA, EU || 80 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 2% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10127.0 Link] || [http://bitclockers.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoin_Pool|Bitcoin Mining Pool]] || USA || 272 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || ? || RPC (+LP) || Unknown || [http://bitcoinpool.com/forum/ Link] || [http://www.bitcoinpool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoin_Pooled_Mining|Bitcoin Pooled Mining (Slush)]] || London || 1491 || Score || kept by pool || || 2% || ? || RPC || 2010-11-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=1976.0 Link] || [http://mining.bitcoin.cz/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoinitalia]] || Italy|| 4.5 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-12 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26634.0 Link] || [http://www.btcfarm.us/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitcoins.lc]] || EU || 624 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=10121.0 Link] || [http://www.bitcoins.lc/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BitLotto Pool]] || Los Angeles || 1 || Prop || kept by pool || || || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=13794.0 Link] || [http://www.bitlottopool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BitMinter]] || USA || 10 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || Yes&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditnote2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Access to proofs-of-work is available on request.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-18 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=27062.0 Link] || [https://bitminter.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Bitp.it]] || USA || 100 || ESMPPS || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12181.0 Link] || [https://pool.bitp.it Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BTC Guild]] || USA, EU || 2800 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donationsf&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible to unlock features&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;|| ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-09 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=7760.0 Link] || [http://www.btcguild.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BTCMine]] || UK || 480 || Score || kept by pool || || 2% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-03-11 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=4251.0 Link] || [http://www.btcmine.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[btcmp.com]] || Germany || 27 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-28 ||  || [http://www.btcmp.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Btcserv.net|BTCSERV.net]] || Germany || 3 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-09 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=27101.0 Link] || [http://btcserv.net/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Btcworld.de]] || Germany || 28 || Prop || kept by pool || || ? || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-18 ||  || [http://btcworld.de/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [http://chwpool.kr105.com/ CHWpool] || Chile || 10 || Prop || kept by pool || || 1% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-30 ||  || [http://chwpool.kr105.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Coinotron]] || Poland || 2 || Score || kept by pool ||  || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-06 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26727.0 Link] || [http://www.coinotron.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Continuum]] || Canada || 16 || Score || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-17 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=8660.0 Link] || [http://www.continuumpool.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[DeepBit]] || Germany || 4180 || PPS / Prop. || kept by pool || 10% || 3% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-02-26 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=3889.0 Link] || [http://deepbit.net/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Eclipse Mining Consortium]] || USA / Europe / AU / Asia || 50 || Prop / Score || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-14 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=16385.0 Link] || [https://eclipsemc.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Eligius]] || Germany || 510 || SMPPS || kept by pool || 0.000001%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || || Yes&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditnote&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Access to Eligius proofs-of-work is available on request.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || RPC (+LP) || 2011-04-27 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=6667.0 Link] || [http://eligius.st Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mineco.in]] || UK || 170 || PPLNS || Shared || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-15 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17310.0 Link] || [https://mineco.in/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mining Team Reddit (MtRed)]] || USA, EU || 212 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;donations&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Donations are possible&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-25 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=15929.0 1] [http://reddit.com/r/mtred/ 2] || [http://www.mtred.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[NoFeeMining]] || USA || 48 || Prop || Shared || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-17 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18301.0 Link] || [http://www.nofeemining.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Ozco.in]] || AUS || 85 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=14085.0/ Link] || [http://www.ozco.in Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[P2Pool]] || n/a (P2P) || 5 || Prop || ? || || 0.5% || ? || RPC (+LP)&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;p2pool&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Against a local p2pool node&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || 2011-06-17 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Link] || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[PolMine]] || Poland|| 150 || Prop. || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-13 || [http://forum.polmine.pl/ Link] || [https://polmine.pl/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[PoolMunity]] || France|| 45 || Score || kept by pool || || 1.5% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-24 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=22036.0 Link] || [https://poolmunity.com/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[rfcpool]] || UK || 29 || Prop &amp;amp; PPS || kept by pool || 7% || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-07-05 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=26164.0/ Link] || [https://www.rfcpool.com Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Simplecoin]] || Unknown || 1.4 || Prop|| kept by pool || || 0%&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;simplecoin&amp;quot;&amp;gt;While in testing.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-02 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=11186.0 Link] || [http://simplecoin.us/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Swepool]] || Sweden || 13 || Prop || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-05-14 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=8288.0 Link] || [http://swepool.net/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Triplemining]] || Europe || 45 || Prop || kept by pool || || 1% || Yes&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;auditnote2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Access to proofs-of-work is available on request.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-28 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23664.0 Link] || [http://tinyurl.com/triplemining Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[UnitedMiners]] || US || 30 || PPLNS || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-28 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=23664.0 Link] || [http://tinyurl.com/triplemining Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[x8s]] || Germany || 95 || Prop || kept by pool || || 1% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-08 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=13275 Link] || [http://btc.x8s.de/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[ZA Bitcoin]] || South Africa|| 0.4 || Score || kept by pool || || 0% || ? || RPC (+LP) || 2011-06-14 || [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=17830.0 Link] || [http://www.zabitcoin.co.za/ Link]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pooled mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bcx.me/ Bitcoin Mining Pool Tracker]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mining]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13890</id>
		<title>P2Pool</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13890"/>
		<updated>2011-07-30T14:53:42Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;P2Pool is a decentralized pool that works by creating a P2P network of miner nodes. These nodes work on a chain of shares similar to Bitcoin&#039;s blockchain. Each node works on a block that includes payouts to the previous shares&#039; owners and the node itself. There is no central point of failure, making it DoS resistant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool GitHub project page] | [https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Bitcoin Forum thread]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Join #p2pool channel on freenode to keep up with the latest talk or for help to get started.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Donation address: &#039;&#039;1JvZX38TZu6Jqo7Ce9T7j21yJE11t7m4Z2&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Idea =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool shares form a &amp;quot;sharechain&amp;quot; with each share referencing the previous share&#039;s hash. Each share contains a standard Bitcoin block header, some P2Pool-specific data that is used to compute the generation transaction (total subsidy, payout script of this share, a nonce, the previous share&#039;s hash, and the current target for shares), and a merkle branch linking that generation transaction to the block header&#039;s merkle hash.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The chain continuously regulates its target to keep generation around one share every five seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike Bitcoin, nodes do not know the entire chain - instead they only hold the last 17280 shares (the last day&#039;s worth). In order to prevent an attacker from working on a chain in secret and then releasing it, overriding the existing chain, chains are judged by how much work they have since a point in the past. To ascertain that the work has been done since that point, nodes look at the Bitcoin blocks the shares reference, establishing a provable timestamp. (If a share points to a block, it was definitely made after that block was made.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Payout logic ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each share contains a generation transaction that pays out to the previous n shares, where n is the number of shares whose total work is equal to 3 times the average work required to solve a block, or 17280, whichever is smaller. Payouts are weighted based on the amount of work each share took to solve - proportional to the p2pool difficulty at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The block reward (currently 50BTC) and the transaction fees are combined and apportioned according to these rules:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A subsidy of 0.5% is sent to the node that solved the block in order to discourage not sharing solutions that qualify as a block. (An evil miner could withhold the block, thereby preventing anybody from getting paid. He can NOT redirect the payout to himself.) In addition, a subsidy of 0.5% is kept as a fee. The remaining 99% is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the event that a share qualifies as a block, this generation transaction is exposed to the Bitcoin network and takes effect, transferring each node its payout.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Protocol description =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool&#039;s protocol mirrors Bitcoin&#039;s P2P protocol in many ways. It uses the same framing (prefix, command, length, checksum, payload) and similar commands:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to establish a connection - contains (&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;services&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_to&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_from&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;nonce&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;sub_version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;best_share_hash&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;setmode&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to update the &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; sent in the &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; message - contains (&#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;ping&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to keep connection alive - contains ()&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrme&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send out an addr for the sending node - contains (&#039;&#039;port&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast list of nodes&#039; addresses - contains (&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getaddrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send &#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039; addrs - contains (&#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getshares&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send the shares referenced by &#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039; of their parents, stopping at any share referenced by &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039; - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share0s&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the hashes of shares - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that do not qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; is 0 for low-bandwidth mode, which sends the hash of a share first before sending the entire share, or 1 for low-latency (default) mode, which forwards the entire (~170 byte) share always. The two nodes on either side of a connection use the minimum of their two preferences for that connection.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Joining the pool =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Follow these steps to join the pool:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Run bitcoin with the RPC interface enabled: put rpcuser=USER, rpcpassword=PASS, and server=1 in bitcoin.conf&lt;br /&gt;
* Download p2pool:&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: http://u.forre.st/u/udvegtzv/p2pool_win32_9037c07.zip&lt;br /&gt;
** git: git clone git://github.com/forrestv/p2pool.git&lt;br /&gt;
* Run p2pool: (See below for additional options.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: run_p2pool.exe USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
** git: python run_p2pool.py USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
* Run a miner daemon with long polling connecting to 127.0.0.1 (or the IP of the host running p2pool if you&#039;re mining remotely) on port 9332 with any username and password&lt;br /&gt;
** poclbm.exe http://a:b@127.0.0.1:9332&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miners ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is all for the latest p2pool version, it includes several new workarounds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Perfect ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;cgminer&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the latest p2pool) works perfectly. A workaround was needed to get long polling to work, but it has no fixed long polling delay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;ufasoft&#039;&#039;&#039;, as far as I can tell by looking at the source but not actually running it (I couldn&#039;t get it to compile) should work perfectly too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Need patch to reduce stales ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;DiabloMiner&#039;&#039;&#039; has a bug where it waits half a second after receiving a long polling response. There is a 20% chance that a p2pool share will be generated in that window, resulting in all hashing until the next getwork being useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have created a fork of DiabloMiner on GitHub that fixes this: https://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner Make sure to get the &#039;&#039;fast_long_polling&#039;&#039; branch!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd DiabloMiner&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Built with JAR and Windows binary: http://u.forre.st/u/xsvenrwa/DiabloMiner_2e73cc.zip&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Poclbm&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug, but it waits a full second.&lt;br /&gt;
GitHub fork: https://github.com/forrestv/poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
Pull request: https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/pull/41&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/poclbm.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
No binary as of yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Phoenix&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug (waiting a full second).&lt;br /&gt;
Patch against SVN r112: http://im.forre.st/pb/74595264.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Bad ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;puddinpop&#039;s RPC Miners&#039;&#039;&#039; don&#039;t have long polling and so will not work at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Option Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
usage: run_p2pool.py [-h] [--version] [--testnet] [--debug] [-a ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--p2pool-port PORT] [-n ADDR[:PORT]] [-l] [-w PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool (version a07e25c18d122565793536945c8cc65049eb1cce)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
optional arguments:&lt;br /&gt;
  -h, --help            show this help message and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --version             show program&#039;s version number and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --testnet             use the testnet&lt;br /&gt;
  --debug               debugging mode&lt;br /&gt;
  -a ADDRESS, --address ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        generate to this address (defaults to requesting one&lt;br /&gt;
                        from bitcoind)&lt;br /&gt;
  -l, --low-bandwidth   trade lower bandwidth usage for higher latency&lt;br /&gt;
                        (reduced efficiency)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --p2pool-port PORT    use TCP port PORT to listen for connections (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        9333 normally, 19333 for testnet) (forward this port&lt;br /&gt;
                        from your router!)&lt;br /&gt;
  -n ADDR[:PORT], --p2pool-node ADDR[:PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to existing p2pool node at ADDR listening on&lt;br /&gt;
                        TCP port PORT (defaults to 9333 normally, 19333 for&lt;br /&gt;
                        testnet), in addition to builtin addresses&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
worker interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  -w PORT, --worker-port PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        listen on PORT for RPC connections from miners asking&lt;br /&gt;
                        for work and providing responses (default: 9332)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bitcoind interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this address (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        127.0.0.1)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the RPC&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to get the current highest block via&lt;br /&gt;
                        getwork (default: 8332)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the p2p&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to submit blocks and get the pubkey&lt;br /&gt;
                        to generate to via an IP transaction (default: 8333&lt;br /&gt;
                        normally. 18333 for testnet)&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface username&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface password&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Comparison of mining pools]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Pooled Mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313 P2Pool forum]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[:Category:Pool Operators]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Pooled_mining&amp;diff=13889</id>
		<title>Pooled mining</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-30T14:44:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Pooled mining&#039;&#039;&#039; is an approach where multiple generating clients contribute to the generation of a block, and then split the block reward according the contributed processing power. Pooled mining effectively reduces the granularity of the block generation reward, spreading it out more smoothly over time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Introduction==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
With increasing generation difficulty, mining with lower-performance devices can take a very long time before block generation, on average. For example, with a mining speed of 1000 Khps, at a difficulty of 14484 (which was in effect at the end of December, 2010), the average time to generate a block is almost 2 years. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
To provide a more smooth incentive to lower-performance miners, several pooled miners, using different approaches, have been created. With a mining pool, a lot of different people contribute to generating a block, and the reward is then split among them according to their processing contribution. This way, instead of waiting for years to generate 50btc in a block, a smaller miner may get a fraction of a bitcoin on a more regular basis.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A &#039;&#039;&#039;share&#039;&#039;&#039; is awarded by the mining pool to the clients who present a valid [[proof of work]] of the same type as the proof of work that is used for creating [[block|blocks]], but of lesser complexity, so that it requires less time on average to generate.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Pooled mining approaches==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The problem with pooled mining is that steps must be taken to prevent cheating by the clients and the server. Currently there are several different approaches used.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The slush approach===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bitcoin Pooled Mining]] (BPM), sometimes referred to as &amp;quot;slush&#039;s pool&amp;quot;, follows a score-based method.  Older shares (from beginning of the round) has lower weight than newer shares, which demotivate cheater from switching between pools inside one round.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The puddinpop approach===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(As of February, 2011, there are no puddinpop pools running.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Another approach is the &#039;metahash&#039; technique, used by puddinpop&#039;s [[remote miner]]. Clients generate hashes, and also submit &#039;metahashes&#039;, which are hashes of a large chunk of generated hashes. The server checks that the metahashes are correct (in a round-robin fashion, picking up a metahash from a client that hasn&#039;t been checked on the longest), thus preventing clients from simply claiming that they have done work without actually doing the work. The withholding of good blocks by the clients is prevented via the server being in possession of the private key, just as in the previous approach. Rewards are distributed based on the number of metahashes submitted by the clients.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The generated blocks contain multiple keys in the generation transaction, giving fractional bitcoin amounts to each key, in proportion to their hashing contribution for that block.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The BitPenny approach===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[BitPenny]] approach is to offer an instant, flat payout for each share that is solved.  The payout is offered from the pool&#039;s existing balance and can therefore be withdrawn immediately, without waiting for a block to be solved or confirmed.  The possibility of cheating the miners by the pool operator and by timing attacks is thus completely eliminated. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This method results in the least possible variance for miners while transferring all risk to the pool operator.  The resulting possibility of loss for the server is offset by setting the payout lower than the full expected value.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Luke-Jr&#039;s approach (&amp;quot;[[Eligius]]&amp;quot;)===&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Luke-Jr|Luke]] came up with a third approach borrowing strengths from the earlier two.&lt;br /&gt;
Like slush&#039;s approach, miners submit proofs-of-work to earn shares.&lt;br /&gt;
Like puddinpop&#039;s approach, the pool pays out immediately via block generation.&lt;br /&gt;
When distributing block rewards, it is divided equally among all shares since the last valid block.&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike any preexisting pool approach, this means that the shares contributed toward orphaned blocks are recycled into the next block&#039;s shares.&lt;br /&gt;
In order to spare participating miners from transaction fees, rewards are only paid out if a miner has earned at least 1 BTC. If the amount owed is less, it will be added to the earnings of a later block (which may then total over 1 BTC).&lt;br /&gt;
If a miner does not submit a share for over a week, the pool sends any balance remaining, regardless of its size.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===The Triplemining approach===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Triplemining]] approach is to bring together a medium-sized pool with no fees and clever redistribution of 1% of every found block to allow your share to grow more rapidly than on any other bitcoin mining pool. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For every found block, Triplemining redistributes 1% of the profits to all minipool owners (people with 1 or more friends mining with them). The redistribution is connected to the shares found by the members of the minipool. So if the hash rate of the minipool members equals or is bigger than yours, the part in the redistribution will be equally bigger.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===P2Pool approach===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[P2Pool]] mining nodes work on a chain of shares similar to Bitcoin’s blockchain.  There is no central point of failure and thus P2Pool becomes DoS resistant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool works different from existing mining pool technologies — each node works on a block that includes payouts to the previous shares’ owners and the node itself.  99% of the block reward (the 50BTC reward plus any included transaction fees) is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.  An additional 0.5% is awarded to the node which solves the block.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Comparison===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The cooperative mining approach (slush and Luke-Jr) uses a lot less resources on the pool server, since rather than continuously checking metahashes, all that has to be checked is the validity of submitted shares. The number of shares sent can be adjusted by adjusting the artificial difficulty level.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Further, the cooperative mining approach allows the clients to use existing miners without any modification, while the puddinpop approach requires the custom pool miner, which are as of now not as efficient on GPU mining as the existing GPU miners.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Smallgeneration.png|thumb|Puddinpop miners receive coins directly.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the puddinpop and Luke-Jr approaches of distributing the earnings by way of including precise sub-cent amounts in the generation transaction for the participants, results in the presence of sub-cent bitcoin amounts in your wallet, which are liable to disappear (as unnecessary fees) later due to a bug in old (before 0.3.21) bitcoin nodes. (E.g., if you have a transaction with 0.052 in your wallet, and you later send .05 to someone, your .002 will disappear.).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Puddinpop and Luke-Jr miners receive coins directly, which eliminates the delay in receiving earnings that is required on slush-based mining servers. However, using some [[eWallet]] services like MyBitcoin for generated coin will cause those coins to be lost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Miners|Miners]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Comparison of mining pools]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Pool Operators|Pool Operators]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Why a GPU mines faster than a CPU]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Why pooled mining]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mining pool reward FAQ]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://21bitcoin.com/pool/ 21bitcoin mining pool, Chinese Interface]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://mining.bitcoin.cz slush&#039;s mining pool]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=1458.0 puddinpop&#039;s mining pool thread]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://blockexplorer.com/block/00000000000233334b157d901714baf59e5b9236227b2878844e52244da4195e example puddinpop block]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://bitclockers.com bitclockers mining pool]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://btcserv.net BTCSERV.net - Bitcoin Mining Pool]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313 P2Pool forum]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Mining]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13886</id>
		<title>P2Pool</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=P2Pool&amp;diff=13886"/>
		<updated>2011-07-30T14:37:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;P2Pool is a decentralized pool that works by creating a P2P network of miner nodes. These nodes work on a chain of shares similar to Bitcoin&#039;s blockchain. Each node works on a block that includes payouts to the previous shares&#039; owners and the node itself. There is no central point of failure, making it DoS resistant.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://github.com/forrestv/p2pool GitHub project page] | [https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=18313.0 Bitcoin Forum thread]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Join #p2pool channel on freenode to keep up with the latest talk.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Donation address: &#039;&#039;1JvZX38TZu6Jqo7Ce9T7j21yJE11t7m4Z2&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Idea =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool shares form a &amp;quot;sharechain&amp;quot; with each share referencing the previous share&#039;s hash. Each share contains a standard Bitcoin block header, some P2Pool-specific data that is used to compute the generation transaction (total subsidy, payout script of this share, a nonce, the previous share&#039;s hash, and the current target for shares), and a merkle branch linking that generation transaction to the block header&#039;s merkle hash.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The chain continuously regulates its target to keep generation around one share every five seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike Bitcoin, nodes do not know the entire chain - instead they only hold the last 17280 shares (the last day&#039;s worth). In order to prevent an attacker from working on a chain in secret and then releasing it, overriding the existing chain, chains are judged by how much work they have since a point in the past. To ascertain that the work has been done since that point, nodes look at the Bitcoin blocks the shares reference, establishing a provable timestamp. (If a share points to a block, it was definitely made after that block was made.)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Payout logic ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Each share contains a generation transaction that pays out to the previous n shares, where n is the number of shares whose total work is equal to 3 times the average work required to solve a block, or 17280, whichever is smaller. Payouts are weighted based on the amount of work each share took to solve - proportional to the p2pool difficulty at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The block reward (currently 50BTC) and the transaction fees are combined and apportioned according to these rules:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A subsidy of 0.5% is sent to the node that solved the block in order to discourage not sharing solutions that qualify as a block. (An evil miner could withhold the block, thereby preventing anybody from getting paid. He can NOT redirect the payout to himself.) In addition, a subsidy of 0.5% is kept as a fee. The remaining 99% is distributed evenly to miners based on work done recently.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In the event that a share qualifies as a block, this generation transaction is exposed to the Bitcoin network and takes effect, transferring each node its payout.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Protocol description =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
P2Pool&#039;s protocol mirrors Bitcoin&#039;s P2P protocol in many ways. It uses the same framing (prefix, command, length, checksum, payload) and similar commands:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to establish a connection - contains (&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;services&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_to&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;addr_from&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;nonce&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;sub_version&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;best_share_hash&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;setmode&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to update the &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; sent in the &#039;&#039;&#039;version&#039;&#039;&#039; message - contains (&#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;ping&#039;&#039;&#039; - sent to keep connection alive - contains ()&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrme&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send out an addr for the sending node - contains (&#039;&#039;port&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast list of nodes&#039; addresses - contains (&#039;&#039;addrs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getaddrs&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send &#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039; addrs - contains (&#039;&#039;count&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;getshares&#039;&#039;&#039; - request that the receiving node send the shares referenced by &#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039; and &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039; of their parents, stopping at any share referenced by &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039; - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;parents&#039;&#039;, &#039;&#039;stops&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share0s&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the hashes of shares - contains (&#039;&#039;hashes&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that do not qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1as&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;&#039; - broadcast message of the contents of shares that qualify as bitcoin blocks - contains (&#039;&#039;share1bs&#039;&#039;)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &#039;&#039;mode&#039;&#039; is 0 for low-bandwidth mode, which sends the hash of a share first before sending the entire share, or 1 for low-latency (default) mode, which forwards the entire (~170 byte) share always. The two nodes on either side of a connection use the minimum of their two preferences for that connection.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
= Joining the pool =&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Follow these steps to join the pool:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Run bitcoin with the RPC interface enabled: put rpcuser=USER, rpcpassword=PASS, and server=1 in bitcoin.conf&lt;br /&gt;
* Download p2pool:&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: http://u.forre.st/u/udvegtzv/p2pool_win32_9037c07.zip&lt;br /&gt;
** git: git clone git://github.com/forrestv/p2pool.git&lt;br /&gt;
* Run p2pool: (See below for additional options.)&lt;br /&gt;
** Windows py2exe: run_p2pool.exe USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
** git: python run_p2pool.py USER PASS&lt;br /&gt;
* Run a miner daemon with long polling connecting to 127.0.0.1 (or the IP of the host running p2pool if you&#039;re mining remotely) on port 9332 with any username and password&lt;br /&gt;
** poclbm.exe http://a:b@127.0.0.1:9332&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Miners ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is all for the latest p2pool version, it includes several new workarounds.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Perfect ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;cgminer&#039;&#039;&#039; (with the latest p2pool) works perfectly. A workaround was needed to get long polling to work, but it has no fixed long polling delay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;ufasoft&#039;&#039;&#039;, as far as I can tell by looking at the source but not actually running it (I couldn&#039;t get it to compile) should work perfectly too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Need patch to reduce stales ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;DiabloMiner&#039;&#039;&#039; has a bug where it waits half a second after receiving a long polling response. There is a 20% chance that a p2pool share will be generated in that window, resulting in all hashing until the next getwork being useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have created a fork of DiabloMiner on GitHub that fixes this: https://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner Make sure to get the &#039;&#039;fast_long_polling&#039;&#039; branch!&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/DiabloMiner.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd DiabloMiner&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Built with JAR and Windows binary: http://u.forre.st/u/xsvenrwa/DiabloMiner_2e73cc.zip&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Poclbm&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug, but it waits a full second.&lt;br /&gt;
GitHub fork: https://github.com/forrestv/poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
Pull request: https://github.com/m0mchil/poclbm/pull/41&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;git clone git://github.com/forrestv/poclbm.git&lt;br /&gt;
cd poclbm&lt;br /&gt;
git checkout fast_long_polling&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
No binary as of yet.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Phoenix&#039;&#039;&#039; has a similar bug (waiting a full second).&lt;br /&gt;
Patch against SVN r112: http://im.forre.st/pb/74595264.txt&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Bad ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;puddinpop&#039;s RPC Miners&#039;&#039;&#039; don&#039;t have long polling and so will not work at all.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Option Reference ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
usage: run_p2pool.py [-h] [--version] [--testnet] [--debug] [-a ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--p2pool-port PORT] [-n ADDR[:PORT]] [-l] [-w PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     [--bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                     BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool (version a07e25c18d122565793536945c8cc65049eb1cce)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
optional arguments:&lt;br /&gt;
  -h, --help            show this help message and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --version             show program&#039;s version number and exit&lt;br /&gt;
  --testnet             use the testnet&lt;br /&gt;
  --debug               debugging mode&lt;br /&gt;
  -a ADDRESS, --address ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        generate to this address (defaults to requesting one&lt;br /&gt;
                        from bitcoind)&lt;br /&gt;
  -l, --low-bandwidth   trade lower bandwidth usage for higher latency&lt;br /&gt;
                        (reduced efficiency)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
p2pool interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --p2pool-port PORT    use TCP port PORT to listen for connections (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        9333 normally, 19333 for testnet) (forward this port&lt;br /&gt;
                        from your router!)&lt;br /&gt;
  -n ADDR[:PORT], --p2pool-node ADDR[:PORT]&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to existing p2pool node at ADDR listening on&lt;br /&gt;
                        TCP port PORT (defaults to 9333 normally, 19333 for&lt;br /&gt;
                        testnet), in addition to builtin addresses&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
worker interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  -w PORT, --worker-port PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        listen on PORT for RPC connections from miners asking&lt;br /&gt;
                        for work and providing responses (default: 9332)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
bitcoind interface:&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-address BITCOIND_ADDRESS&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this address (default:&lt;br /&gt;
                        127.0.0.1)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-rpc-port BITCOIND_RPC_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the RPC&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to get the current highest block via&lt;br /&gt;
                        getwork (default: 8332)&lt;br /&gt;
  --bitcoind-p2p-port BITCOIND_P2P_PORT&lt;br /&gt;
                        connect to a bitcoind at this port over the p2p&lt;br /&gt;
                        interface - used to submit blocks and get the pubkey&lt;br /&gt;
                        to generate to via an IP transaction (default: 8333&lt;br /&gt;
                        normally. 18333 for testnet)&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_USERNAME&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface username&lt;br /&gt;
  BITCOIND_RPC_PASSWORD&lt;br /&gt;
                        bitcoind RPC interface password&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/pre&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[:Category:Pool Operators]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12416</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12416"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T17:33:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first as good as gold and a lot easier to carry? How can you exchange easily with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada you can either trade using the [http://bitcoin-otc.com/ Over The Counter (OTC)] system and its web of trust system, or register with the first Canadian-based exchange - [https://www.cavirtex.com cavirtex.com]. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When conducting trades [http://plasticliving.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-otc-quickstart-guide.html using the OTC] you are strongly encouraged to check the rating of individuals you are about to trade with. &#039;&#039;&#039;Look for a cumulative rating of at least 8, that has come from at least 3 other individuals with good ratings, and that is at least 2 weeks old&#039;&#039;&#039;. if you do not have such a rating then you are going to have to trust the party that has a better trust rating than you until you have enough good trades and ratings to have built a good reputation yourself.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When sending and receiving money the preferred method is a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12415</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12415"/>
		<updated>2011-07-03T17:32:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first as good as gold and a lot easier to carry? How can you exchange easily with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada you can either trade using the [http://bitcoin-otc.com/ Over The Counter (OTC)] system and its web of trust system, or register with the first Canadian-based exchange - [https://www.cavirtex.com cavirtex.com]. &#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When conducting trades [http://plasticliving.blogspot.com/2011/05/bitcoin-otc-quickstart-guide.html using the OTC] you are strongly encouraged to check the rating of individuals you are about to trade with. Look for a cumulative rating of at least 8, that has come from at least 3 other individuals with good ratings, and that is at least 2 weeks old. if you do not have such a rating then you are going to have to trust the party that has a better trust rating than you until you have enough good trades and ratings to have built a good reputation yourself.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When sending and receiving money the preferred method is a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12277</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12277"/>
		<updated>2011-07-02T17:29:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: as promised!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first as good as gold and a lot easier to carry? How can you exchange easily with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada you can either trade using the [http://bitcoin-otc.com/ Over The Counter (OTC)] system and its web of trust system, or register with the first Canadian-based exchange- [https://www.cavirtex.com cavirtex.com]. &#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When conducting trades using the OTC you are strongly encouraged to check the rating of individuals you are about to trade with. Look for a cumulative rating of at least 8, that has come from at least 3 other individuals with good ratings, and that is at least 2 weeks old. if you do not have such a rating then you are going to have to trust the party that has a better trust rating than you until you have enough good trades and ratings to have built a good reputation yourself.   &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
When sending and receiving money the preferred method is a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12276</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=12276"/>
		<updated>2011-07-02T17:23:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: clearcoin no longer supported - more edits coming&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first as good as gold and a lot easier to carry? How can you exchange easily with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada you can either trade using the Over The Counter system and its web of trust system, or register with the first Canadian-based exchange- [https://www.cavirtex.com cavirtex.com]. So how can you exchange using the OTC web of trust?&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=CAD-BTC-Ex-comments&amp;diff=9859</id>
		<title>CAD-BTC-Ex-comments</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=CAD-BTC-Ex-comments&amp;diff=9859"/>
		<updated>2011-06-06T06:31:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This is for comments on djex&#039;s draft of a [http://j.mp/BTC-CAD-ex Proposed Canadian Bitcoin Market Transaction Process Using Interac e-Transfer]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;June 5, 2011&#039;&#039;&#039; - I&#039;ve started a Google Group for those interested in collaborating to start a Canadian Bitcoin Exchange. Subscribe at https://groups.google.com/group/btc-cad-ex if you are interested. Please note that this is a &#039;&#039;&#039;public&#039;&#039;&#039; discussion group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;May 29, 2011&#039;&#039;&#039; - I&#039;m putting together a list of interac transfer fees each bank / credit union that supports interac e-transfers. To my current knowledge a fee is only applied for sending funds not receiving according to the interac website:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Sending: There may be a fee from your financial institution for sending an Interac e-Transfer, so check with your financial institution.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Receiving: There is no fee for receiving an Interac e-Transfer through online banking.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;However, if your financial institution does not yet offer the Interac e-Transfer service, or if you don&#039;t bank online, you can still receive transfers to any Canadian bank account. You will need to register and provide your banking information in order for the money to be deposited into your bank account. The deposit usually takes 4 - 6 business days to process and a $4.00 fee will be deducted from the deposit amount.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Standard text messaging charges apply. - http://www.interac.ca/consumers/faqs.php&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please feel free to contribute your banks fee in the chart below for sending interac e-transfers. Replace the &amp;quot;--&amp;quot; with the fee amount.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Financial Institution !! e-Transfer Fee (CAD)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Auto Workers Community Credit Union  || $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| BMO Bank of Montreal || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Caisse Populaire de Clare  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| CIBC || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| City Savings Financial Services  || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Conexus Credit Union Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Copperfin Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Credit Union Atlantic || $1.25&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Creston &amp;amp; District Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Eagle River Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Enderby &amp;amp; District Credit Union  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| First Calgary Financial  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Heritage Credit Union  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Interior Savings Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Island Savings Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Kingston Community Credit Union || Free - $3.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Leading Edge Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Libro Financial Group || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Mennonite Savings and Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Metro Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Newfoundland and Labrador Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Northern Credit Union || $2.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Northern Lights Credit Union|| --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Northern Savings Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| OPPA Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| PenFinancial Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| President&#039;s Choice Financial || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Prospera Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| RBC Royal Bank of Canada|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rochdale Credit Union|| --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Scotiabank|| $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Sydenham Community Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| TCU Financial Group|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| TD Canada Trust|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Teachers Credit Union|| $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Unigasco Community Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| United Communities Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Unity Savings and Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| VantageOne Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Westminster Savings Credit Union|| $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Windsor Family Credit Union|| $2.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Your Credit Union|| --&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;May 19, 2011&#039;&#039;&#039; - Updated document with a possible buyer / seller rating system. I believe this system could promote faster transactions. Please have a look. -djex&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Bimmerhead suggested that if the buyer sends less than the total amount (say $15 out of $25), it might be a good option to let the seller cancel the whole transaction rather than automatically allow partial fulfillment.Just because the seller may have wanted an &#039;all or nothing&#039; sale.&#039;&#039; (May 17, 2011)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:* Added in a possible solution for this. Check the document for latest change. -djex&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Re: &amp;quot;If Seller never confirms payment&amp;quot;.  This is the crucial scenario, I think, because 1) the seller has no incentive (he already has his money) and 2) The faster the market clears transactions, the more people will want to use it.  Buyers will get frustrated if the &#039;wait time&#039; is too long.  I&#039;d give a transactions a ResponseTime field (slow, med, fast, veryfast).  Once the email is sent, the seller is expected to respond within a pre-defined timeframe (24hrs, 12hrs, 2hrs, 30min).  This might work for other scenarios where a response from the buyer/seller is required -PlasticLiving&lt;br /&gt;
:* I updated the document with a few changes regarding this. Still not 100% sure on the Response Time field. Is the buyer setting this field? -djex&lt;br /&gt;
::* Maybe 2 order books? A &#039;fast&#039; one for the day traders (liquidity being crucial) and a &#039;slow&#039; one for others? -PlasticLiving&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=CAD-BTC-Ex-comments&amp;diff=9858</id>
		<title>CAD-BTC-Ex-comments</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=CAD-BTC-Ex-comments&amp;diff=9858"/>
		<updated>2011-06-06T06:23:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;This is for comments on djex&#039;s draft of a [http://j.mp/BTC-CAD-ex Proposed Canadian Bitcoin Market Transaction Process Using Interac e-Transfer]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;June 5, 2011&#039;&#039;&#039; - I&#039;ve started a Google Group for those interested in collaborating on starting a Canadian Bitcoin Exchange. Subscribe at https://groups.google.com/group/btc-cad-ex if you are interested. Please note that this is a &#039;&#039;&#039;public&#039;&#039;&#039; discussion group.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;May 29, 2011&#039;&#039;&#039; - I&#039;m putting together a list of interac transfer fees each bank / credit union that supports interac e-transfers. To my current knowledge a fee is only applied for sending funds not receiving according to the interac website:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Sending: There may be a fee from your financial institution for sending an Interac e-Transfer, so check with your financial institution.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Receiving: There is no fee for receiving an Interac e-Transfer through online banking.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;However, if your financial institution does not yet offer the Interac e-Transfer service, or if you don&#039;t bank online, you can still receive transfers to any Canadian bank account. You will need to register and provide your banking information in order for the money to be deposited into your bank account. The deposit usually takes 4 - 6 business days to process and a $4.00 fee will be deducted from the deposit amount.&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;Standard text messaging charges apply. - http://www.interac.ca/consumers/faqs.php&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please feel free to contribute your banks fee in the chart below for sending interac e-transfers. Replace the &amp;quot;--&amp;quot; with the fee amount.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! Financial Institution !! e-Transfer Fee (CAD)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Auto Workers Community Credit Union  || $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| BMO Bank of Montreal || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Caisse Populaire de Clare  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| CIBC || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| City Savings Financial Services  || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Conexus Credit Union Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Copperfin Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Credit Union Atlantic || $1.25&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Creston &amp;amp; District Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Eagle River Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Enderby &amp;amp; District Credit Union  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| First Calgary Financial  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Heritage Credit Union  || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Interior Savings Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Island Savings Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Kingston Community Credit Union || Free - $3.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Leading Edge Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Libro Financial Group || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Mennonite Savings and Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Metro Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Newfoundland and Labrador Credit Union || --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Northern Credit Union || $2.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Northern Lights Credit Union|| --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Northern Savings Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| OPPA Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| PenFinancial Credit Union || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| President&#039;s Choice Financial || $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Prospera Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| RBC Royal Bank of Canada|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Rochdale Credit Union|| --&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Scotiabank|| $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Sydenham Community Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| TCU Financial Group|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| TD Canada Trust|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Teachers Credit Union|| $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Unigasco Community Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| United Communities Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Unity Savings and Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| VantageOne Credit Union|| $1.50&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Westminster Savings Credit Union|| $1.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Windsor Family Credit Union|| $2.00&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Your Credit Union|| --&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;May 19, 2011&#039;&#039;&#039; - Updated document with a possible buyer / seller rating system. I believe this system could promote faster transactions. Please have a look. -djex&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &#039;&#039;Bimmerhead suggested that if the buyer sends less than the total amount (say $15 out of $25), it might be a good option to let the seller cancel the whole transaction rather than automatically allow partial fulfillment.Just because the seller may have wanted an &#039;all or nothing&#039; sale.&#039;&#039; (May 17, 2011)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
:* Added in a possible solution for this. Check the document for latest change. -djex&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Re: &amp;quot;If Seller never confirms payment&amp;quot;.  This is the crucial scenario, I think, because 1) the seller has no incentive (he already has his money) and 2) The faster the market clears transactions, the more people will want to use it.  Buyers will get frustrated if the &#039;wait time&#039; is too long.  I&#039;d give a transactions a ResponseTime field (slow, med, fast, veryfast).  Once the email is sent, the seller is expected to respond within a pre-defined timeframe (24hrs, 12hrs, 2hrs, 30min).  This might work for other scenarios where a response from the buyer/seller is required -PlasticLiving&lt;br /&gt;
:* I updated the document with a few changes regarding this. Still not 100% sure on the Response Time field. Is the buyer setting this field? -djex&lt;br /&gt;
::* Maybe 2 order books? A &#039;fast&#039; one for the day traders (liquidity being crucial) and a &#039;slow&#039; one for others? -PlasticLiving&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9403</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9403"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T03:47:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first as good as gold and a lot easier to carry? How can you exchange easily with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let&#039;s introduce the two systems used in a safe trade.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied with the other party release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;See the screen captures at the bottom of this page to acquaint yourself with the process.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9401</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9401"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T03:40:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first as good as gold and a lot easier to carry? How can you exchange easily with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let&#039;s introduce the two systems used in a safe trade.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;See the screen captures at the bottom of this page to acquaint yourself with the process.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9394</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9394"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:40:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let&#039;s introduce the two systems used in a safe trade.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;See the screen captures at the bottom of this page to acquaint yourself with the process.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading&amp;diff=9393</id>
		<title>Secure Trading</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading&amp;diff=9393"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:37:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: /* Introduction */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;Secure Trading Online&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This topic is a guide in how to set up your online identity and best practices for trading with others in the Bitcoin community.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Introduction==&lt;br /&gt;
Within the Bitcoin community, many are very careful with their security and identity.   This is because of two main reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
# There is no violent body to cover your back for you.  Or more simply there is no courts to seek assistance from if your transaction sours.&lt;br /&gt;
# One’s reputation is the most important thing that any user has; traders will take very little risk with new users who have not proven themselves.  (as they could just be last week’s scammer with a new identity)&lt;br /&gt;
The bitcoin community uses a few tools to help protect their privacy, and thus identity.   The first and most important is a [[Securing Your Computer|Secure Computer]].&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Before proceeding please make sure you have completed the [[Securing Your Computer]] guide, this guide assumes that your computer is secure both physically and in software.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are trading within Canada you are encouraged to use Interac e-transfer and Clearcoin as outlined on [[Secure Trading-CAD-interac|this page]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Creating a secure Identity==&lt;br /&gt;
The first step is to create a cryptographically secure public-private key-pair.  This will be used as the basis of keeping both your wallet secure (see [[Securing your wallet]]), and your identity secure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Creating your first PGP key-pair===&lt;br /&gt;
A PGP key-pair does two very important functions.&lt;br /&gt;
# Sign information with an unforgeable signature&lt;br /&gt;
# Decrypt things that other people encrypt for you&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This allows you to both conduct business privately (encryption), and give out promises that you cannot deny making (signature).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==== Microsoft Windows:====&lt;br /&gt;
* Install GPG4Win: http://www.gpg4win.org/&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This contains all the key management and generation tools for Microsoft Windows.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
====All:====&lt;br /&gt;
# Install Thunderbird: https://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-GB/ &lt;br /&gt;
# Setup your email account with Thunderbird.&lt;br /&gt;
# Install the Enigmail plugin for Thunderbird: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/enigmail/&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Upon loading Enigmail, Thunderbird will ask you to make a new ‘identity,’ follow this wizard and you will have created your identity.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
You should backup your private key in a secure place.  Secondary, you should create a revocation certificate and store that in a different secure place (maybe print it out and store it in your fire safe).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Register with [#bitcoin-otc]===&lt;br /&gt;
Follow the guide here: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Register the same username at the popular places:===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bitcoin Forum]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bitcoin.it_Wiki|Bitcoin Wiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bitcoin:Community_portal#IRC_Chat|Freenode IRC]]&lt;br /&gt;
Use a strong and different password for each of these places, keeping your passwords in a secure place.  This will allow other people in the community to track you across the different Bitcoin related sites.  Also making identity theft online more challenging.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Best Practices with trading==&lt;br /&gt;
===Use Bitcoin-OTC===&lt;br /&gt;
* Always require the user to become registered with #bitcoin-otc.&lt;br /&gt;
* Require a signed message from the fingerprint quoted at: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php&lt;br /&gt;
* Follow additional [http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc#Risk_of_fraud recommendations] for avoiding fraud.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Make sure both parties agree to the terms of the trade with signed messages===&lt;br /&gt;
* Get a PGP signed quote, and check the signature.&lt;br /&gt;
* Send a PGP signed receipt.&lt;br /&gt;
This allows either party to go public if the trade has become sour and stops your trading partner from claiming the details of the agreement were somehow different.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Search the Bitcoin Forum for the username of the person that you are trading with. Check if the user has provided constructive and useful advice to other parties.  And, most importantly, check for any claims that the user has scammed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Use an escrow===&lt;br /&gt;
Trading might benefit from an escrow such that bitcoins are disbursed only after contract terms have been met.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A popular online escrow is [[ClearCoin]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Found in Bitcoin&#039;s community are trusted individuals willing to act as independent, third-party escrow brokers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[de:Sicheres_Handeln]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[zh-cn:交易安全]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9392</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9392"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:30:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let&#039;s introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;See the screen captures at the bottom of this page to acquaint yourself with the process.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9390</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9390"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:14:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;See the screen captures at the bottom of this page to acquaint yourself with the process.&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9389</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9389"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:13:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. S&#039;&#039;&#039;ee the screen captures at the bottom of this page to acquaint yourself with the process.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9388</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9388"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:12:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9387</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9387"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:11:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------ &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9386</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9386"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:10:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
------&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9385</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9385"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:09:32Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;---&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9384</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9384"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:07:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correc&lt;br /&gt;
t. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9383</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9383"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:05:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9382</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9382"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:04:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9381</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9381"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T01:02:49Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(See more images showing a Clearcoin escrow transaction [[File:Clearcoin1.png|here]], [[File:Clearcoin2.png|here]], and [[File:Clearcoin3.png|here]].)&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9377</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9377"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:55:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin5.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9376</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9376"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:53:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin4.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
Clearcoin escrow transaction showing cleared (held) coins and link to share with interac e-transfer party.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
The page where the interac e-transfer party can see that the correct amount is being held for them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9374</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9374"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:49:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin3.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9371</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9371"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:46:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9370</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9370"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:42:56Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9369</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9369"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:35:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin1.png|Clearcoin escrow transaction waiting for coins to clear&lt;br /&gt;
{{ns:file}}:Clearcoin2.png|Clearcoin escrow transaction showing clear coins ready to be released&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9367</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9367"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:33:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{ns:file}}:clearcoin1.png|Clearcoin escrow transaction waiting for coins to clear&lt;br /&gt;
{{ns:file}}:clearcoin2.png|Clearcoin escrow transaction showing clear coins ready to be released&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9362</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9362"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:06:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction (check with your bank or credit union). The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9361</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9361"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:05:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; You should send the money via e-mail through your financial institute - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;Interac e-transfer party:&#039;&#039; When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; &#039;&#039;BTC party:&#039;&#039; Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9360</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9360"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:02:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Interac e-transfer party. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer party. When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it! Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep their own. &amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;(Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.)&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9359</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9359"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:01:37Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Interac e-transfer party. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer party. When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it!&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9358</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9358"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:01:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Interac e-transfer party. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer party. When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it!&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9357</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9357"/>
		<updated>2011-05-31T00:00:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Interac e-transfer party. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer party. When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it!&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9356</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9356"/>
		<updated>2011-05-30T23:58:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It has no fees for trades below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Interac e-transfer party. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer. When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it!&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9354</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9354"/>
		<updated>2011-05-30T23:57:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada many financial institutions offer a service called Interac, which has a marvellous system called [http://www.interac.ca/consumers/productsandservices_ol_eTransfer.php Interac e-transfer]. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin (BTC) side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It&#039;s 100% free for exchange below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to Clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The Interac e-transfer party. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC party is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Once the Interac e-transfer amount is verified, send the BTC to Clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the Interac e-transfer party, s/he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to them, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to the Interac e-transfer party. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer. When you see the Clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in Clearcoin, the BTC party can say thank you, wait for the Clearcoin to expire, and simply get their BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC party to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to their BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC party. Cash in the Interac e-transfer money and release the BTC in Clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it!&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an Interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the Clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9351</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9351"/>
		<updated>2011-05-30T23:49:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada we can use Interac, which has a marvellous system called interac e-transfer. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It&#039;s 100% free for exchange below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These two systems can be used to ensure security for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The e-interact side. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC side is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC side. Once the e-interact amount is verified, send the BTC to clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the e-interact side, he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to him, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to e-interact side. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer. When you see the clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in clearcoin, the BTC side can say thank you, wait for the clearcoin to expire and simply get its BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC side to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to his BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC side. Cash in the e-interact money and release the BTC in clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it!&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9350</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9350"/>
		<updated>2011-05-30T23:48:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada we can use Interac, which has a marvellous system called interac e-transfer. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;E-mail the money (minus the password)&#039;&#039;&#039;;&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It&#039;s 100% free for exchange below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Send your BTC to clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address.&#039;&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
# &#039;&#039;&#039;Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These two systems can be used to be secure for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039;&#039; The e-interact side. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC side is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC side. Once the e-interact amount is verified, send the BTC to clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the e-interact side, he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to him, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to e-interact side. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer. When you see the clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in clearcoin, the BTC side can say thank you, wait for the clearcoin to expire and simply get its BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC side to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to his BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039;&#039; BTC side. Cash in the e-interact money and release the BTC in clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;That&#039;s it!&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Please note it takes around 30 minutes for an interac e-transfer transfer to be sent. With the clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 60-90 minutes.&#039;&#039;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9349</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9349"/>
		<updated>2011-05-30T23:46:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada we can use Interac, which has a marvellous system called interac e-transfer. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# E-mail the money (minus the password);&lt;br /&gt;
# Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It&#039;s 100% free for exchange below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# Send your BTC to clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address. &lt;br /&gt;
# Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These two systems can be used to be secure for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039; The e-interact side. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC side is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039; BTC side. Once the e-interact amount is verified, send the BTC to clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the e-interact side, he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to him, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to e-interact side. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer. When you see the clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in clearcoin, the BTC side can say thank you, wait for the clearcoin to expire and simply get its BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC side to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to his BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039; BTC side. Cash in the e-interact money and release the BTC in clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That&#039;s it!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please note it takes around 30min for an interac e-trasnfer transfer to be sent. With the clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 1h-1h30.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9348</id>
		<title>Secure Trading-CAD-interac</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Secure_Trading-CAD-interac&amp;diff=9348"/>
		<updated>2011-05-30T23:44:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Humble: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;Secure BTC - CAD exchange&#039;&#039;&#039;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;You have been mining for quite a while and now would be a nice time to cash out? You&#039;ve learned enough about Bitcoin to know it&#039;s the best money out there - the first to be at the same level as gold? How could you two exchange easily, with minimum hassle? Forget about the trust and feedback system. Real traders do business, not friendly chit-chat. (But you&#039;re always welcome on &#039;&#039;&#039;#bitcoin-cad&#039;&#039;&#039; on &#039;&#039;&#039;freenode.net&#039;&#039;&#039; if you want to talk.) So, how can you exchange without the need to trust the other party? First let me introduce the two systems used in the usual transaction.&#039;&#039; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In Canada we can use Interac, which has a marvellous system called interac e-transfer. Fees are normally between 0 and 2$ per transaction. The payment takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# E-mail the money (minus the password);&lt;br /&gt;
# Send the password by e-mail, IRC, PM on a forum, smoke messages...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If you are on the Bitcoin side of the exchange, you can use an escrow service named [http://clearcoin.com Clearcoin]. It&#039;s 100% free for exchange below 100 BTC. Again, the normal exchange takes place in two steps:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
# Send your BTC to clearcoin, specify a destination address and a return address. &lt;br /&gt;
# Once you&#039;re satisfied by the other party, release the BTC.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
These two systems can be used to be secure for both parties, without the need for trust. How does it work?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;First move:&#039;&#039; The e-interact side. You should send the money via e-mail - but not the password! You don&#039;t want to give your hard earned money to a stranger if you make a typo, or if the BTC side is unreliable. This will show you indeed have the money and that the destination is correct. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Second move:&#039;&#039; BTC side. Once the e-interact amount is verified, send the BTC to clearcoin, with the destination address and the return address. Now, the return address should not be your address. You should send it to a charity. Why? If you simply send it back to yourself, you could easily cancel the transaction after you&#039;ve got the money and get your BTC back after some time. If you send it to a charity, the other party knows you will never get your BTC back, which means you have every incentive to complete the transaction. If you&#039;re being trolled by the e-interact side, he could cancel the transaction. At least you know you didn&#039;t lose your BTC to him, but rather did a good action by giving to a charity. As you will see, the same risk applies to e-interact side. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Third move:&#039;&#039; Interac e-transfer. When you see the clearcoin with your address in it and a charity as a return address, send the password. At this point you lose all power. If you did not ask for a charity option in clearcoin, the BTC side can say thank you, wait for the clearcoin to expire and simply get its BTC back. It&#039;s also possible for the BTC side to simply accept to give to a charity and keep the money. At least you know the other side needed to say good-bye to his BTC. See this as a good action - it&#039;s as if you had given to a charity. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&#039;&#039;Fourth move:&#039;&#039; BTC side. Cash in the e-interact money and release the BTC in clearcoin. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That&#039;s it!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Minimum risk for both party and a speedy transaction. There is no point in time where a party had the opportunity to take the other side&#039;s money and keep his. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please note it takes around 30min for an interac e-trasnfer transfer to be sent. With the clearcoin validation and the final validation, you should have entirely completed the transaction within 1h-1h30.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Humble</name></author>
	</entry>
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