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		<title>Block size limit controversy</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Hameddk: Added Coinify statement&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{current}}{{see also|Scalability FAQ}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Block]]s are limited to 1MB in size. Miners can mine blocks up to the 1MB fixed limit, but any block larger than 1MB is invalid. This limit cannot be modified without a hard fork. To prevent Bitcoin from temporarily or permanently splitting into separate payment networks (&amp;quot;altcoins&amp;quot;), hard forks require adoption by nearly all [[Full node#Economic_strength|economically active]] full nodes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arguments in favor of increasing the blocksize ==&lt;br /&gt;
* More transactions per second&lt;br /&gt;
* Off-chain solutions are not yet ready to take off the load from the main blockchain.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Contentions ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Increased blocksize will leave space for extensions like Mastercoin, Counterparty, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
** Neutral: Bitcoin competitors will have lower fees&lt;br /&gt;
** Negative: Bitcoin full nodes are forced to use more resources that don&#039;t support Bitcoin&lt;br /&gt;
* Small blocks eventually will require higher fees for fast confirmations.&lt;br /&gt;
** Positive: It will no longer be cheap to spam transactions such as Satoshi Dice bets&lt;br /&gt;
** Positive: Fees will not be zero. This is eventually a necessity in order to incentivize miners and secure the mining ecosystem&lt;br /&gt;
** Negative: Bitcoin may look unattractive to new users with high fees&lt;br /&gt;
** Negative: High fees may stop or reverse global adoption, investment, development, support and centralization{{clarification needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
** Negative: Bitcoin users pay higher fees&lt;br /&gt;
* A low blocksize limit encourages higher transactions fees to incentivize miners (&amp;quot;let a fee market develop&amp;quot;). &lt;br /&gt;
** A fee market naturally develops due to miner latency regardless&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43331625/feemarket.pdf A Transaction Fee Market Exists Without a Block Size Limit&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*** The relay network can be optimized so that miners don&#039;t have a stale rate increasing with latency. This should cause the fee market to once again require a block size limit to exist.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arguments in opposition to increasing the blocksize ==&lt;br /&gt;
* A hard fork requires waiting for sufficient consensus.&lt;br /&gt;
* Risk of catastrophic consensus failure&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg08276.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{clarification needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
* An emergency hard fork that can achieve consensus can be deployed on a short time period if needed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/392m43/mike_hearn_blocksize_debate_at_the_breaking_point/cs00wdd How to raise block size in a short time], Peter Todd, Reddit /r/Bitcoin, 9 June 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Orphan rate amplification, more reorgs and double-spends due to slower propagation speeds.&lt;br /&gt;
* European/American pools at more of a disadvantage compared to the Chinese pools{{why}}&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Congestion&amp;quot; concerns can be solved with mempool improvements including transaction eviction.&lt;br /&gt;
* No amount of max block size would support all the world&#039;s future transactions on the main blockchain (various types of off-chain transactions are the only long-term solution)&lt;br /&gt;
* Fast block propagation is either not clearly viable, or (eg, IBLT) creates centralised controls.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Damage to decentralization ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Larger blocks make full nodes more expensive to operate.&lt;br /&gt;
* Therefore, larger blocks lead to less hashers running full nodes, which leads to centralized entities having more power, which makes Bitcoin require more trust, which weakens Bitcoins value proposition.&lt;br /&gt;
* Bitcoin is only useful if it is decentralized because centralization requires trust. Bitcoins value proposition is trustlessness.&lt;br /&gt;
* The larger the hash-rate a single miner controls, the more centralized Bitcoin becomes and the more trust using Bitcoin requires.&lt;br /&gt;
* Running your own full node while mining rather than giving another entity the right to your hash-power decreases the hash-rate of large miners. Those who have hash-power are able to control their own hash power if and only if they run a full node.&lt;br /&gt;
* Less individuals who control hash-power will run full nodes if running one becomes more expensive&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.weusecoins.com/why-blocksize-limit-keeps-bitcoin-free-decentralized/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Proposals==&lt;br /&gt;
===BIP 100===&lt;br /&gt;
Change block size limit based on miner votes, but don&#039;t leave the range (1MB, 32MB) without a softfork or hardfork respectively.&lt;br /&gt;
===BIP 101===&lt;br /&gt;
{{seealso|Bitcoin XT}}&lt;br /&gt;
Increase to 8 MB after both January 11, 2016 has passed and 75% of miners are supporting. Double the limit every two years with the size increasing linearly within those two year intervals.&lt;br /&gt;
===BIP 102===&lt;br /&gt;
Increase to 2 MB on November 11, 2015.&lt;br /&gt;
===BIP 103===&lt;br /&gt;
Increase by 17.7% annually until 2063.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Entities positions ==&lt;br /&gt;
Positions below are based on a suggested fixed block size increase to 20MiB.  Positions against these larger blocks do not necessarily imply that they are against an increase in general, and may instead support a smaller and/or gradual increase.&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Entity&lt;br /&gt;
! Supports Larger Blocks&lt;br /&gt;
! Supports Hard Fork&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Bitcoinpaygate&lt;br /&gt;
| {{No|No: &amp;quot;We do NOT support the blocksize increase&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37y8wm/list_of_bitcoin_services_that_supportoppose/crqsnqp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Bitrated&lt;br /&gt;
| {{No}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;At this time, I oppose increasing the block size limit as per Gavin&#039;s proposal&amp;quot; - Nadav Ivgi (founder)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/shesek/status/605005384026177537&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[GreenAddress]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{No|No: &amp;quot;In our mind increasing the block size like this is just pushing the problem a little further at potentially unfixable costs.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/35anax/list_of_bitcoin_services_that_support_increasing/cr2mq84&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[MPEx]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{No}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=07-01-2015#967332&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Paymium]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{No|No: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[allow]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; a sane transaction fee market to emerge, by letting the blocks actually fill-up.&amp;quot;}} - CTO David Francois&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://fr.anco.is/2015/gavineries/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Ethereum&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Neutral|Neutral: &amp;quot;If &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[the niche of digital gold]&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; is what Bitcoin users want, then they should keep the limit, and perhaps even decrease it. But if Bitcoin users want to be a payment system, then up it must go.&amp;quot;}} - Vitalik Buterin (founder)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/380q61/i_know_this_may_not_directly_be_ethereum_related/crrofl6&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[F2Pool]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Neutral|Neutral: &amp;quot;We do support bigger blocks and sooner rather than later. But we cannot handle 20 MB blocks right now. ... I think we can accept 5MB block at most.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34157036/],[http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34158911/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Armory]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;This *is* urgent and needs to be handled right now, and I believe Gavin&lt;br /&gt;
has the best approach to this.&amp;quot; - CEO Alan Reiner&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34093337/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| BitcoinReminder&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;BitcoinReminder.com also supports 20MB blocks (or even more?&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/37y8wm/list_of_bitcoin_services_that_supportoppose/crs9ytd&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| BitHours&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;We support @gavinandresen and his proposal for 20mb blocks&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/bithours/status/605131647747358721&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BitPay]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Agreed (but optimistic this will be the last and only time block size needs to increase)&amp;quot; - CEO Stephen Pair&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/spair/status/595341090317799424&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;In summary, we believe BIP 101 will safeguard Bitcoin’s decentralized nature while providing a reliable, immediate path toward greater network throughput, and we would like to express our support for merging BIP 101 into Bitcoin Core.&amp;quot;}} - Stephen Pair&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://medium.com/@spair/increasing-the-block-size-limit-85ff236fc516&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Bittiraha.fi&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;We are supporting increasing #Bitcoin max block size to 20MB.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/Bittirahafi/status/596682373028311040&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I&#039;m strongly in favor of the block size cap increase to 20MB.&amp;quot; - CEO Henry Brade&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/Technom4ge/status/596334370803326978&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;And I&#039;m in favor of releasing a version with this change even with opposition.&amp;quot; - CEO Henry Brade&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/Technom4ge/status/596334370803326978&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Blockchain.info]]&lt;br /&gt;
|{{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;It is time to increase the block size. Agree with @gavinandresen&amp;quot; - CEO Peter Smith&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/OneMorePeter/status/595676380320407553&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Scaling #bitcoin is a big deal. Increase the block size.&amp;quot; - Nic Cary&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/niccary/status/595707211994763264&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Blocktrail]]&lt;br /&gt;
|{{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;We&#039;d love to see BIP101 with 4mb start, alternatively BIP100 with something to deal with the 21% attack could be good too.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://blog.blocktrail.com/2015/08/miners-block-size-vote-explained/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Breadwallet&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[...] in support of the Gavin&#039;s 20Mb block proposal.&amp;quot; - CEO Aaron Voisine&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/message/34096857/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[BTC Guild]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Needs to happen, but needs future expansion built in at a reasonable rate.&amp;quot; - Eleuthria&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/370rko/21_inc_engineer_everyone_assumes_humans_will_be/crjfnpg?context=3&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| BX.in.th&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;http://BX.in.th&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; will support the 20MB block size&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/BitcoinThai/status/605022509101023232&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| [[Coinbase (business)|CoinBase]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;Coinbase supports increasing the maximum block size&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/coinbase/status/595741967759335426&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Why we should increase the block size&amp;quot; - CEO Brian Armstrong&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/595453245884997634&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;5/ hard forks probably shouldn&#039;t happen frequently, but periodically they are an elegant solution that helps bitcoin keep growing&amp;quot;}} - CEO Brian Armstrong&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/633309671994998784&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
| [[Coinify]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;We see Bitcoin XT as the best solution for ensuring the future scalability of the Bitcoin network.&amp;quot; - CTO Hamed Sattari&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://news.coinify.com/coinify-supports-bitcoin-xt-scalability-bitcoin-payments/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Dr. Adam Back (individual)|Dr. Adam Back]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;For the record I am not aware of a single person who has said they do not agree with scaling Bitcoin.  Changing a constant is not the hard-part.  The hard part is validating a plan and the other factors that go into it.  It&#039;s not a free choice it is a security/scalability tradeoff.  No one will thank us if we &amp;quot;scale&amp;quot; bitcoin but break it in hard to recover ways at the same time.&amp;quot;}} &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg08276.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{No}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I strongly urge that we return to the existing collaborative constructive review process that has been used for the last 4 years which is a consensus by design to prevent one rogue person from inserting a backdoor, or lobbying for a favoured change on behalf of a special interest group, or working for bad actor&amp;quot; - Dr. Adam Back&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg08276.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| Kryptoradio&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;#Kryptoradio dev @zouppen supports 20MB block size in #bitcoin.&amp;quot; - Joel Lehtonen&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/koodilehto/status/596675967667568641&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|- &lt;br /&gt;
| [[OKCoin]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;OKCoin&#039;s tech team believes it&#039;s the right decision&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/okcoinbtc/status/598412795240009728&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Third Key Solutions]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes}}&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Gavin is right.  The time to increase the block size limit is before transaction processing shows congestion problems.&amp;quot; - CTO Andreas Antonopoulos&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/595601619581964289&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Xapo]]&lt;br /&gt;
| {{Yes|Yes: &amp;quot;One meg is not enough: Xapo supports increasing the maximum block size&amp;quot;}} - CEO Wences Casares&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://twitter.com/wences/status/595768917907402752&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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